This is interesting work, but I am curious about a comment you make here:

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Unlike Adobe AIR and Microsoft Silverlight, we’re not building a proprietary platform to replace the web.
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Yet, then you describe Prism as:

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Prism isn’t a new platform, it’s simply the web platform integrated into the desktop experience. Web developers don’t have to target it separately, because any application that can run in a modern standards-compliant web browser can run in Prism. Prism is built on Firefox, so it supports rich internet technologies like HTML, JavaScript, CSS, and and runs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux.

And while Prism focuses on how web apps can integrate into the desktop experience, we’re also working to increase the capabilities of those apps by adding functionality to the Web itself, such as providing support for offline data storage and access to 3D graphics hardware.
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You could describe Adobe AIR in exactly the same way.

So, is the main difference between something like Prism and Adobe AIR, that Adobe AIR is being primarily developed by a company (Adobe), and that Prism is being developed by Mozilla?

i.e. Adobe AIR is built on top of web standards and can run existing web applications and content. It runs on Windows and Mac (and soon Linux), and it also provides additional desktop functionality.

Btw, I don’t see any information on Adobe’s site suggesting Adobe AIR is meant to “replace the web”, but, as you ackowledge here, there are some apps that may provide a better experience if they are running out of the browser, and closer to the desktop.

mike chambers

mesh@adobe.com

Awesome! Nice to see this finally come to fruition. When will OS X and Linux builds be available?

The JS chrome-less popup window comes full circle :(

“We believe the web is an open plaform …” but this just closes it to one website at a time.

Yay!

Justin: we have builds in hand, but they have bugs too big to release them yet, and Mark Finkle, the primary developer, is currently away at a conference. I’m hoping we’ll be able to provide those builds by next week.

pd: au contraire, we don’t do anything to close the web platform. We simply provide you with a dedicated window to an application running on that platform. It’s the same as if you had opened a new window in Firefox and loaded the application there, but without the browser chrome to get in your way.

-myk

looks promising but i guess it is a very very very long way to go….

ideally, what I personally am much more interested in, would be to use another scripting language (python or ruby) instead of javascript. but i guess prism is a (small) step in a right direction

she: There are Python XPCOM bindings for Mozilla, which would make it possible to use Python in chrome code (i.e. the code implementing Prism) if you were to rebuild Prism with those bindings enabled.

But I don’t think those bindings make it possible to use Python in web content running in Prism. But there’s a project called IronMonkey to implement Python support in the next-generation Tamarin JS runtime. See for example this blog post for more info.

-myk

Not to be glib, but there are more reasons than this why people want AIR or Silverlight… I see Prism as a replacement for XUL; not a competitor to AIR.

The web is great, but its a lowest-common-denominator. Web standards bodies are slower than molasses, and because of the delay they make standards that nobody uses, or that languish (*cough* VRML *cough*)

Plus, if you extend the web with stuff like CANVAS, and Microsoft doesn’t follow suit, web developers are stuck maintaining at least two very different code bases… one web app for Firefox/Prism, one for IE.

If you want flash, why not just use Flash? Its an open “enough” standard, isn’t it?

bex: I don’t quite understand how Prism is a replacement for XUL, given that Prism isn’t a user interface language, and you can use XUL inside Prism. Can you explain further?

Regarding Flash, as far as I know it isn’t an open enough standard (most significantly, it is controlled by one organization), and some web standards bodies move faster than others, f.e. the WHATWG has been more speedily putting together many interesting specifications that various browser vendors have been busily implementing (including one for canvas!).

Just 10 hours ago I saved http://wiki.mozilla.org/WebRunner to make del.icio.us account, I’m sure glad I saw this too!

More power to ya!

>Regarding Flash, as far as I know it isn’t an open enough standard

You do realize that Adobe AIR is as much about HTML, JavaScript, CSS, etc… as it is about Flash / Flex?

More thoughts here:

http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2007/10/25/mozilla-prism-and-the-disingenuous-web/

mike chambers

mesh@adobe.com

Im sorry but I installed this and I just don’t get what there is to be excited about. A webpage (ie gmail) now has an icon and runs in a firefox window without any buttons. wow.

The project looks very interesting. Can’t wait till more progress is made.

[...] Mozilla posted today with further elaboration on a product still in Labs called Prism. I didn’t quite grasp the significance of the product in some of the dry descriptions I’ve been reading here and there, but as I put the pieces together, it looks like it could be quite a revolutionary direction for web-based applications and Mozilla as an organization. [...]

Put Prism on a mobile device and I smell killer! Let’s see open phone, open OS, open browser, and Prism. Looks good!

Very nice! I haven’t gotten around to trying WebRunner, but perhaps I shall give Prism a try.

Minor nit: The Windows key for switching applications is Alt-Tab, not Control-Tab. The latter is used for changing windows within an application. (Does anyone do that anymore? Also…Ctrl-F6…but that goes back to the Windows 3.1 days. =P) Mind you, I’m writing this on a Mac…but I’m a keyboard junkie…and that keystroke is equivalent to Cmd-` on a Mac, not Cmd-Tab. (Sorry for the rambling rant. :-) )

Hello,

How do I make it work when in proxy environment?
Any Settings window / command mode?

[...] Prism  —  Personal computing is currently in a state of transition.  While traditionally users have interacted mostly with desktop applications, more and more of them are using web applications.  But the latter often fit awkwardly into the document-centric interface of web browsers. Source:   Mozilla Labs Blog Author:   LabRats Link:   http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ Techmeme permalink [...]

[...] Prism  —  Personal computing is currently in a state of transition.  While traditionally users have interacted mostly with desktop applications, more and more of them are using web applications.  But the latter often fit awkwardly into the document-centric interface of web browsers. Source:   Mozilla Labs Blog Author:   LabRats Link:   http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] Mozilla has announced Prism, an effort to bridge the gap between the Web and the desktop. Mozilla Labs is launching a series of experiments to bridge the divide in the user experience between web applications and desktop apps and to explore new usability models as the line between traditional desktop and new web applications continues to blur. [...]

[...] It looks promising. Offline web apps are becoming more and more popular and Firefox is making a right move towards it. I’ll be writing a complete review soon, but for now, you can click here. [...]

[...] Mozila Prism Mozilla Labs Blog � Blog Archive � Prism cool stvarčica, ba� me zanima kaj bu na kraju od toga … __________________ Tra�io sam pičke, dobio sauger i ozljedio ruku. [...]

[...] Prism, Mozilla’s take on desktop web apps Mozilla Labs released today Prism, a rebranded version of WebRunner, a Mozilla-based application for running single web applications. [...]

This is awesome stuff because I’ve wanted to develop in XUL on the desktop for a long time, but (somewhat strangely) my excitement is tempered by the erroneous shots you’re taking at AIR and Silverlight.

If you must compare them, get the facts straight, but it’d be better if you guys just went back just taking the high road and kicking butt.

I just installed it to try out my website. It’s a video site in Flash (think TV-in-a-browser) and a good candidate to test out Prism. I read the article and the linked blogs and here’s what I think are the main issues:

1. Seriously long load time: I have a powerful PC (dual quad-core, 4gb ram, XP x64, scsi raid) and this thing took over 10s just to launch. Closing and opening again didn’t help speed things up. Loading the website was same speed as new tab in Firefox2.

2. Once you’ve created a “webapp”, there seems to be no way to edit the settings other than editing the webapp.ini in C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Prism\Profiles\[weird-chars].default\webapps\example.com@prism.app

3. Needs some desktop features to make it more useful than a new tab in Firefox: minimize to tray, true full screen, always stay-on-top option, borderless/no-titlebar mode, transparency option. These options are pretty easy to do in Windows (like my old app Glass2k: http://chime.tv/products/glass2k.shtml from way back when).

4. Would be great if you could right-click on the shortcut of the webapp, click Properties and edit its settings in a new tab next to General and Shortcut.

5. Needs keyboard shortcut keys. If they are present, I can’t find them. Keyboard for full screen, minimize to tray, stay on top etc. would be great.

6. It does remember windows position like a good Windows app. However, if it’s maximized on monitor 2 and closed, it reopens in monitor 1 maximized.

Since my site is all Flash, I haven’t tested any DOM/HTML operations. I’m guessing since it’s Gecko engine, it would work well. The installation was smooth and I’d much rather use a Gecko engine than AIR/Apollo for desktop webapps.

I haven’t even started to make my site accessible on AIR because it just seems like such a huge process. I was always to build a webapp within 30s of installing Prism so you guys definitely have the right foundation to start on.

I understand making neat local-storage features would be great but as a regular user, I’d much rather see more OS/desktop integration features instead initially. Eventually 2d/3d hardware acceleration would encourage games and more CAD-stuff but till then, at least give users/devs a good reason to install Prism.

>I haven’t even started to make my site accessible on AIR because it just seems like such a huge process.

To get existing Flash content to run within AIR all you have to do is create an XML file.

If you had any issue, please feel free to ping me directly, and Ill try and help you out.

mike chambers

mesh@adobe.com

[...] A slew of postings over the past day (see Mark Finkle, Mozilla Labs and Alex Faaborg) announce a new experimental project from Mozilla Labs – Mozilla Prism. Following in the footsteps of Adobe (AIR) and Microsoft (Silverlight), it blurs the lines between web applications and desktop applications. However, a distinct advantage of browser development team allows Prism to have a simpler paradigm. [...]

You might wanna fix the images in your blog post, they look a bit mashed cos you set the height & width wrong.

@Sai Kothapalle :

You need to modify the all.js file in the greprefs file. For example I use a automatic proxy and hence my values were something like.

// My Profile settings
pref(”network.proxy.type”, 2);
pref(”network.proxy.autoconfig_url”, “http://host/something.pac”);

How is this any different (or more useful) than a hyperlink? For example I could put a hyperlink to G-mail on my desktop and have it pull up a FireFox window.

This sounds kinda cool.

Something to have fun with in the comming weekend.

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism (tags: prism web next future techn) [...]

This would work great with Google Gears for the local storage/offline usage parts. The great thing is, it is open and already implemented so all you have to do is ship with it.

As for 3d graphics, it seems to me that you biting off more than you can chew. To go from something that really only launches the browser without the buttons to full bindings for Direct3D and OpenGL?

[...] Naar het schijnt is Mozilla – de makers va o.a. Firefox en Thunderbird-  ook al in een behoorlijk gevorderd stadium met het ontwikkelen van een soortgelijke ‘dienst’ . En met dienst bedoel ik dan het implementeren van online applicaties op de gebruikersdesktop. Bij Mozilla heet het echter Prism [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs (die kleinen grünen Kobolde die neben dem Goldschatz am Ende des Regenbogens sitzen und in ihrer Freizeit Firefox coden) hat heute Prism (ehemals WebRunner) angekündigt – ein Projekt, das das Web auf den Desktop (außerhalb des Browsers) bringen soll. [...]

[...] View: Full Story @ Mozilla Labs Explore posts in the same categories: Blog [...]

I see AIR also as environment to build quick and simple desktop applications (with access to the file system), is Prism going to target it or is going to be “just” a webapp standalone that might run offline?

I agree with Bill. I didn’t find it that interesting or rather useful.

[...] The Mozilla guys aren’t just working on Firefox 3, but also on a technology called Prism which is supposed to further blur the border between desktop programs and web applications. “Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop,” the Mozilla Labs blog states. [...]

[...] Prism, basato sul codice di Firefox, è un software che permette di far funzionare applicazioni web come applicazioni indipendenti, normalmente installate sul computer, ma che si aggiornano senza intervento dell’utente, che hanno accesso alla rete internet per gestire dati e informazioni: il futuro di questo progetto prevederà la possibilità di salvare dati in locale e utilizzare le potenzialità 3D delle schede grafiche. [...]

Your “best of both worlds” table is a little out on the Desktop site, IMHO.

Installation slow? Hmmm….maybe. I’ll let this one slide.

Update process verbose? “apt-get update && apt-get upgrade” How is that verbose? OK, it’s not *quite* as clean as not having to do *anything*, but it’s close. In face, if you consider that you ought to keep your Desktop OS up-to-date anyway, then updating your apps can be completely free.

Data not in the cloud? Hmmm…..strange. Most of the apps I use, being based on KDE, can access files via http, ftp, scp, ssh and a whole lot more with exactly the same ease that they can access local files. I’m pretty sure there are KIO slaves done or under development that can use gmail for storage too.

Just because the desktop system you use might be stuck in the ’90s, that doesn’t mean there aren’t more modern things out there that already do a lot of the things you’re looking for.

[...] Oct 26th, 2007 by deepakd The Mozilla guys aren’t just working on Firefox 3, but also on a technology called Prism which is supposed to further blur the border between desktop programs and web applications. “Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop,” the Mozilla Labs blog states. [...]

[...] Interesting stuff on the Mozilla Labs Blog: [...]

i cannot use i’m beind a autenticated proxy…… i hope that you fix it soon, i run webrunner at home and this is very usefull

[...] “Mit dem neuesten Produkt von Mozilla, Prism, lassen sich Webapplikationen aus dem Browser herausbrechen und als eigenständige Applikationen nutzen. Prism basiert dabei auf Firefox, stellt die Applikationen aber in einem eigenen Fenster ohne die browsertypischen Bedienelemente dar. So kann auf dem Desktop auch mittels “Alt+Tab” oder “Command+Tab” zwischen der Webapplikation und anderen Desktop-Applikationen umgeschaltet werden. Auch im Exposé werden diese so einzeln aufgeführt. Zudem bekommt die Webapplikation so ein eigenes Icon und kann z.B. im Startmenü von Windows verankert und daraus gestartet werden.”, so Golem.de [...]

Hi there,
I really like the idea, I’ve tried with the google services and facebook etc and it all seems sound. However, Prism seems to “forget” the shortcut, after a while when I start one of the web apps up it’ll just prompt me with the Prism dialog.
Also, I think that mouse gesture integration would really make this product shine.

I’ve given Prism a shot and I’ll be happy to see further development of it.
Nice work.

When is it going to be possible to have offline storage and auto- synching for gmail?

Without this feature, Prism is useless to me.

Looks great! Thanks a lot for this. Installing it now.

I like it!

Please add more options:
- show back/forward/reload button (lots of applications don’t have their own)
- which domains to open in its own window
- include firefox extensions

Just install it and will test it today. Hope to find good things inside, as usual for Mozilla stuff.

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism Unlike Adobe AIR and Microsoft Silverlight, we’re not building a proprietary platform to replace the web. We think the web is a powerful and open platform for this sort of innovation, so our goal is to identify and facilitate the development of enhancements that bring the advantages of desktop apps to the web platform. [...]

[...] Jednym z takich projektów jest Mozillowy PRISM -  nowe beta dziecko, które pozwala nam “zainstalować” aplikacje działające w sieci (gmail, google calendar etc.) na lokalnym komputerze i odpalanie ich ze skrótów albo z menu start. [...]

Very good idea! Prism is just what we needed for our web-based information system. No more users irritated by unneeded toolbar and stuff.

>How is this any different (or more useful) than a hyperlink? For example I could put a hyperlink to G-mail on my desktop and have it pull up a FireFox window.

Well Im guessing this will be very useful for below average computer user and to gain Mozilla some more users. Not everyone knows how to put hyperlinks on their desktops.
Its also useful for people who like the chrome gone. Popups offer this yes but rarely any sites do. I would also suggest all the ideas Chirag offered. Boot up time is my main concern though. IE has always beat Mozillas boot up time. I dont think your normal addons should be present automatically either. You should have the option to enable them but give a warning that it may slow down boot time. But as I said before get it quick and people will use it. Also you guys really need to fix how much RAM firefox takes up after long use. Im not gonna be running Gmail or anything under this and have to restart it because I get up to 100mgs in RAM.

I don’t understand how this is any different from Adobe AIR. Some explanation would be nice, instead of mindless jabs at large corporations without having your facts straight.

I have been working with AIR since the beginning, and they need better marketing for it to get rid of confusion. The problem has been that their Flex/Flash team has been more on the ball when it comes to AIR than their HTML/JavaScript/CSS team. AIR is, and always has been, about bringing web applications to the desktop, not replacing the web. There is nothing proprietary about it, other than it is being created by Adobe. The majority of the development environments are open-source, including Flex, with only Flash not open source. But Flex builds Flash-type applications, so that doesn’t matter.

And for those that think it will be a huge hassle to convert to AIR, all you need is an xml file, and the AIR framework.

Of course, a nice feature of Prism, as described, is the ability to convert apps to Prism apps at the touch of a button, without the creator doing anything to leverage the desktop. Though, an added feature of AIR, which places it well out of competition with Prism (as described here) is that AIR has full access to both Web-based storage, and desktop based storage. The developer can develop an AIR app to leverage the desktop specifically, but can also simply port their web-app over to the desktop.

Well said Mike.

Adobe AIR and M$ Silverlight are not even comparable. You may compare Silverlight with Adobe Flash.AIR wont “replace” the web. It allows web developers to leverage on their existing skills in HTML,Javascript etc., and create applications targeted specifically for desktop.AIR enhances the web experience and takes it out of the browser.

As far as i understand, all Prism does is to render webpages (or webapps) without Firefox’s native buttons and menus.
Is that the case or do you have anything more than that?

Mike@adobe.com seems to be really scared of this… I wonder why.

I was not interested in offline applications because the market was mainly controlled by two large corporations. Now it is definitely on my radar.

Thanks Mozilla.

Will the linux version be ready soon? When can we expect it?

[...] Prisma es una aplicación basada en Webrunner que permite a los usuarios poder “dividir” las aplicaciones de la web y poder ejecutarlas directamente desde el escritorio en ventanas independientes al navegador. [...]

I don’t get this project.

If it aims to create a shortcut to a website, and place it in a non-navicable window; what does the user gain but non-navigability?
Also, to use applications online, support Google Gears (open source and cross platform). Don’t open up ANOTHER standard..
The only interesting part about this is a possible competitor to Silverlight or Flash, an OPEN one.. That is cool! Nix the parts about shortcuts and google gears, and focus on a flash competitor.

If you pre-install it in firefox (or at least bundle it), you will have INSTANT market share, so you have an advantage!

SVG in Prism apps, nice …

[...] Mozilla Labs has just released some information and some preliminary code about its new Prism project.  The bottom line of this is that they want to disassociate the Web from the browser.  In other words, they want to allow browser-based applications to run on the desktop without a browser.  Interesting idea. [...]

Prism is already the name of a software deployment tool created by New Boundary Technologies (www.newboundary.com).

[...] Mozilla lanza Prism, una aplicación basada en WenRunner, que viene a añadirse a los varios experimentos para combinar web y escritorio: lo mejor de lo online con lo mejor de lo offline. [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism اين کار رو براي شما انجام ميده!!! بنياد موزيلا اخيرا بر روي سرويسي کار ميکنه که هدف اون دسترسي به امکانات اينترنت بدون استفاده از مرورگرهاست.اين پروژه Prism نام داره.Prism برنامه‌ايست که به کاربران اجازه ميده که سرويسهاي تحت وب رو به طور مستقيم از روي دسکتاپشون اجرا کنند! [...]

I certainly applaud Mozilla Labs for coming up with this Prism application! It certainly complements well with the latest news release. Unfortunately, I won’t go further to test it until it is stable, but I am very interested to see how far it goes.

This is (from what I can tell) already available with MS Explorer. The SDK allows you to build (provide) a web browser with no conrol bars; in effect a window. You could easily build an application that would allow you to enter an address (as you have done here) and bind it to this (control free) window instance.

This has been available for a long time and no bug testing required at this point.

Not sure how this offering is unique?

This is pointless you might aswell just create shortcuts to web pages and put them in the start menu or whatever then just goto view>toolbars and hide the address bar or whatever.

[...] Le ReLucBlog à traduis le début de l’annonce officiel: L’informatique personnelle est actuellement dans une phase de transition. Alors que, traditionnellement, la plupart des utilisateurs exploitent des applications de bureaux (desktop applications), de plus en plus d’entre eux utilisent des applications Web. Mais ces derniers sont souvent rendus maladroitement dans l’interface du navigateur qui est centrée sur le document. De plus ils sont entourées de contrôle – comme les boutons avancer et reculer et une barre de localisation – qui n’ont rien à voir avec l’interaction avec l’application elle-même. [...]

I fail to see the usefulness of this. All I would get is a browser window without ANY menu bar, which on its own looks odd. This might start to get useful when websites start implementing proper menu bars, like Microsoft Dynamics does. Till then its just an odd looking web browser window for me. And I would prefer all the subsequent windows that I open from a web page to group together in the app, instead of cluttering my taskbar.

I feel that this takes a shot at the tabbed browsing feature of the browsers. And for people like me who would be working on multiple apps simultaneously, a cluttered taskbar is a major headache.

‘Unlike Adobe AIR and Microsoft Silverlight’

Yes, Prism is completely unlike either, it is a web browser without the navigation and restricted to one URL.

On one hand I can certainly see a use for this for some web apps, but on the other I can’t help feeling that taking account of ‘back/forward’ is PART of developing for the web as much as working with the request/response model and if your app breaks when they are used, there’s likely much bigger problems in the code.

I think the idea is fine, but why separate it from Firefox? I’d rather just have an option in Firefoxe to open a link into a “prism” just like I can open to a new tab. You could set things up such that desktop shortcuts launch directly into such a window as well, so it would just be another type of window for firefox.

With the way things are in prism, it’s almost 100% overlap with firefox, but it’s another app to maintain, keep track of version setting, security settings, etc, etc.

[...] Now that WebRunner is Prism and is an actual Mozilla Labs project, I’m really looking forward to seeing what comes next.  I’m also looking forward to it running on an operating system I actually use, since currently it’s only running on Windows.  Mark Finkle says it’ll be on the Mac next week.  Sweet! [...]

Funny to see, just a few years back we invented tabbed browsing, and now we’re overthrowing this UI paradigm.

[...] 這幾天看到很多文章在介紹 Prism，雖然沒有下載試用，應該還滿適合對電腦不熟的人。 [...]

Bug report:

1. Desktop short cuts cannot contain spaces, otherwise when the application launch next time, it will stop showing the previous saved website.

2. The cursor does not show when I’m writing a gmail, it does work when writing most blog articles as well.

[...] View: Full Story @ Mozilla Labs [...]

[...] Prism is a very interesting little development that the Mozilla folks are working on. Don’t recall where I read about it – probably slashdot. The nub: Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop. [...]

I tried Prism with netvibes.com, and there seems to be bugs.
While it should open a RSS feed in a box, it opens the link in firefox.

Like others, I don’t find it very usefull.

[...] Mentre Mozilla prepara il rilascio del Firefox 3, nome in codice “Gran Paradiso”, i Mozilla Labs annunciano la disponibilità di Prism, una piattaforma software che consente di lanciare applicazioni web come Google Mail o Facebook come se si trattasse di applicazioni desktop, ed all’interno di finestre separate del desktop medesimo. Attraverso Prism, Mozilla cerca di cancellare la linea di demarcazione che separa le applicazioni web dalle tradizionali desktop applications, creando di fatto un ponte tra le due tipologie applicative. I Mozilla Labs dichiarano di stare esplorando nuovi modelli di usabilità delle interfacce applicative, e da esperimenti condotti con WebRunner (un browser basato sul XULRunner e soprannominato “distraction free browser”) è nato Prism. Ma non si tratta di una nuova piattaforma proprietaria che vuole sostituire il web, sottolinea Mozilla, bensì di uno strumento che intende unificare due mondi non poi così nettamente separati: il desktop ed il web. [...]

[...] Mozilla har jobbat på en applikation som heter Prism och som ska ta webbapplikationer till din vanliga skrivbordsmiljö. Du startar dem med en vanlig ikon och de körs i ett eget fönster. Än så länge för Windows, men kommer för Mac och Linuxoperativ också. Här kan du se hur du kommer igång. En nedladdning krävs, men man jobbar på att det skall bli en del av en vanlig webbläsare. Det här stämmer säkert också fint med de planerade möjligheterna att jobba off-line med webbaplikationer som aviserats för Firefox 3. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism While traditionally users have interacted mostly with desktop applications, more and more of them are using web applications. But the latter often fit awkwardly into the document-centric interface of web browsers. (tags: mozilla prism Firefox desktop browser applications) [...]

[...] Mozilla heeft vandaag Prism gelanceerd, een programmaatje dat favoriete webdiensten een plek geeft op de desktop. Mozilla was al een tijd met de ontwikkeling van de software bezig onder de naam Webrunner, maar heeft deze nu vrijgegeven als Prism. [...]

Suggestions,
Need a username password entry/storage feature. Also the window prevents roboform from functioning so I have no use for it in it’s current state, but I’m cheering you on. I like the concept, lots of possibilitys.

[...] 点击进入 [下载Mozilla Prism] [...]

[...] October 27th, 2007 [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism (tags: air ajax applications apps blog browser browsers software web desktop prism firefox mozilla application) [...]

[...] Web apps run on the desktop!read more | digg story [...]

Isn’t this almost the same as what you’ve been able to do with HTA (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms536496.aspx) files for ages? I run two “web apps” at work both web sites but inside their own window with their own icon and shortcut on the desktop and no browser interface.

[...] 在一个网页不起眼的角落看到一则新闻（还顺带发现了Mozilla Labs）： Mozilla Labs 发布了一款叫做Prism的软件，能够将Gmail, Twitter, Facebook之类的互联网应用“从Firefox中脱离出来，直接在桌面上运行”。目前仅有Windows平台版本。 [...]

[...] Na stronie projektu obejżeć można kilka przykładowych rzutów ekranu. [...]

Prism – Webapplikationen auf dem Desktop…

Mit Prism von Mozilla Labs kann man Web-Applikationen wie Gmail oder Google Reader als Anwendung auf dem Desktop, ohne Zuhilfenahme eines Browser, lau…

[...] Aşa s-a născut acum 1-2 săptămâni WebRunner realizat de Mozilla. Un fel de Firefox dar fără meniuri, fără bări de instrumente… Pentru a-l folosi trebuia să scrii un fişier text pe care îl salvai cu extensia webapp şi care putea fi apoi lansat. Laboratoarele de la Mozilla au mai şlefuit ideea şi săptămâna aceasta a apărut Prism. Ideea ne-o explică chiar Mozilla prin imaginea următoare. Pentru a folosi anumite webaplicaţii (anumite situri la modul generic), putem folosi Prism în loc de Firefox (sau alt navigator). De ce am opta pentru aşa ceva când în Firefox avem atâtea instrumente (majoritatea prin suplimente)? Răspunsul este destul de simplu şi de aceea încă nu foarte atractiv: Prism ocupă mai puţină memorie fiind un navigator super-super-super-simplu (dar bine securizat, ca Firefox). Aşa că problema se pune invers: de ce să lansezi Firefox când tot ce vrei să faci este să îţi consulţi calendarul de la Google? [...]

I think there is something wrong with the server hosting the file or the installer itself is corrupt. I keep getting a corrupt file error after downloading it and trying to run the installer. I believe other people have said the same in the comments.

I applaud the efforts of Prism, but it seems that you are confused about what AIR is and what Silverlight is.

Some other posters have already pointed out the AIR issues. Silverlight is merely Microsoft version of Flash: a technology to spice up existing web applications.

And to make things more interesting, Silverlight has two implementations: one created by Microsoft which is proprietary and one created by the Mono team which is open source.

Am not sure that the debate over a “proprietary platform” has much value in this context either.

If the guidelines is having an open source stack, then Silverlight has an open source implementation and as such its open.

If the guideline is that it must have a stamp-of-approval of some standards orgranization for its specification, then XUL is as proprietary as Silverlight is (no standard organization has declared it a standard).

It seems that the only possible scenario where Silverlight might be more closed is because the upcoming version will allow binary blobs for compiled code (not the one available today). But the binary blobs for compiled code happen to be an ISO and ECMA standards.

So I guess “View Source” is the only thing that you could complain Silverlight lacks. I think this can be solved by adding a contextual menu to Moonlight that can show you the XAML file (this is plain text) or invoke Reflector on the downloaded assembly to see its source code.

No magic there.

Miguel.

I don’t see why you guys don’t give credit to those who had all this out and working way before Mozilla: http://www.3d3r.com/bubbles/

Thanks :-)

[...] Mozilla Prism vs Adobe AIR ? Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop [...]

[...] Mozilla geliştiricileri yeni oyuncakları olan Prism’i duyurdu. Mozilla Prism, Web alt tabanlı uygulamaları İşletim sistemlerinde çalışabilir duruma getiren bir yazılım. Kullanımı ve Çalışma tekniği ise oldukça basit. İşletim sisteminizde kullanmak istediğiniz Web uygulamasının adresini ve ismini yazıp, nereye kaydedileceğini belirliyorsunuz. Örneğin Gmail veya YouTube. Bu siteleri tek bir Pencerede görüntüleyebiliyorsunuz. Prism, İşlemi bir tarayıcıya göre oldukça hızlı gerçekleştiriyor. [...]

[...] Yesterday, Mozilla – the creators of the Firefox browser – released a  “Firefox lite” application call Prism, built specifically to run web applications. And it so rocks!!! Its fast, its browser compatible and it has some nice desktop integration features. I know that folks have been waiting for the Winter 08 release for sf.com to be compatible with the Windows version of Safari to increase speed and performance.  Wait no longer…this is a great alternative (although I still want to see how sf.com performs in Safari once its compatible). [...]

[...] Descarga Prism para Windows Prism en Mozilla Labs [...]

[...]  » original news [...]

[...] A Mozilla Labs blog post yesterday announced Prism, an application that takes web apps to the desktop. Prism isn’t a proprietary platform, but rather gives any web application that runs in a standards-compliant browser its own window and icons on the desktop. Right now, that’s all Prism does. It doesn’t add any offline functionality or give apps things like file system access, but Mozilla seems to hint about developments in that direction in the Labs announcement. [...]

[...] На этой неделе Mozzila Labs объявили о начале серии экспериментов в пользу протагонистов сетевого образа компьютерной жизни. Одна новая разработка (в рамках исследования) носит название Prism и позволяет рядовому пользователю установить у себя приложения веб как обычные. Иными словами, парой щелчков можно вытянуть любой веб-сервис за пределы браузерного окна, после чего работать с ним как с обычной программой. Все Alt-Tab’ы, минимайзы и группирование в панели задач в силе. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog – Prism http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...]  » original news [...]

I wrote up a different spin on this story over at my blog, from a more “anti Browser” perspective…

http://www.kyle-brady.com/2007/10/26/the-continued-mozilla-syndrome/

–Kyle

[...] La web 2.0 est� ya dando sus �ltimas bocanadas ante el avance 2.1. Un avance que sin duda rematar� Prism, una tecnolog�a de los creadores de firefox que no es novedosa en lo esencial, pero que se lanzar� justo en el momento en el que buena parte de los usuarios estar�n m�s acostumbrados a usar herramientas online propias del 2.1 que residentes. [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism：整合桌面软件和web app Adobe有Air，Microsoft有Silverlight，而Mozilla推出了Prism。尽管表述有所不同，但三种平台其实做的是一件事情，也就是打破桌面软件（desktop app）和web app的界限，而现在的重点在于，把web app变成像桌面软件一样，让web app变得更强大。 现在的prism还很弱小，但是把gmail、twitter、meebo变成一个桌面软件还是能做到的。现在的prism还需要下载，未来应该也是可以基于web的。 下面的图就是prism的操作界面，输入web app的网址，取个名字，选择快捷方式（shortcut）的位置，就完成了。 [...]

you can only use 1 word names

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism “Mozilla Labs is launching a series of experiments to bridge the divide in the user experience between web applications and desktop apps and to explore new usability models as the line between traditional desktop and new web applications continues to blur (tags: mozilla prism desktop web applications) [...]

Maybe a lazy question: This can solve the lock alert when a cdrom autostart an html page using flash?

Thanks in advance.

[...]  Mozilla wants to unify your WEB 2.0 Desktop with a project called Prism. The goal is to unify web applications such as Facebook,email, Twitter, and others. Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop.  [...]

[...] Enter “Prism“, a new Mozilla Labs project: Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop. [...]

Why is everyone trying to mimic Java Web Start and no one is adopting it?

[...] PrismFor more information about the user experience we hope to achieve in Prism, see Alex Faaborg sblogpost. For some of the technical details and new features found in Prism, see Mark Finkle sblogpost. Getting Started with Prism… [...]

[...] Prism – under the guise of “not wanting to replace the web with a proprietary standard like Adobe FIR or Microsoft’ Silverlight” (nevermind the fact that we actually have an honest to Einstein Open Source implementation of Silverlight), no it’s much worse. Instead of replacing the web with a proprietary solution, they are replacing my applications one by one and handing all my data to the care of Google (and friends as the project becomes more widespread). Yes oh that sounds like an appealing solution, it’s all free and upgrades are transparent on these web apps, so transparent they keep the actual workings entirely secret. [...]

[...] desconocido wrote an interesting post today!.Here’s a quick excerptPersonal computing is currently in a state of transition. While traditionally users have interacted mostly with desktop applications, more and more of them are using web applications. But the latter often fit awkwardly into the … [...]

Same as fish. there is some issues with the cursor not showing up…. that can be really annoying in particular for gmail.

Otherwise prism is a really interesting app as it allow to lighten firefox by sparing it from running common webpages like gmail or calendar. It seems that this way the OS (windows) can better deal with the memory sharing.

[...] On the technology front new tools are in development that support web applications in ways that we can only dream of today.  Prism offers the world of applications within your browser, unencumbered by back buttons, and URL bars.  A scaled down browser with a clear line of sight to the application people want … email, RSS, Calendar, FaceBook even – see here for current applications for Prism.   Prism is relevant  because as a web application presentation it actually supports either FaceBook of Google.  By the same token, those two will never achieve real success unless a Prism or like, vehicle exists.  Its not co-incidence, that Google might be considering taking on development of the Firefox/Mozilla browser.  [...]

[...] “Prism n’est pas une nouvelle plate-forme, c’est tout simplement la plate-forme Web intégrée dans le bureau. Les développeurs Web n’ont pas a la cibler séparément, car toute application qui peut être exécutée dans un navigateur Web moderne conforme aux standards peut fonctionner dans Prism. Prism est crée sur Firefox, donc il supporte les technologies riche de l’Internet comme HTML, JavaScript, CSS, et la balise <canvas> et fonctionne sous Windows, Mac OS X et Linux.” a expliqué Alex Faaborg dans un post sur Mozilla Labs. [...]

[...] Así que, Mozilla ha decido renovar el proyecto Webrunner, ahora, bajo un nuevo nombre, Prism. Como es posible que no muchos sepan siquiera lo que es Webrunner o cuál era la idea tras este proyecto, decidí comentarlo además de los cambios que serán incluídos bajo el nombre Prism. [...]

[...] Ich halte es nicht hinterm Berg: Ich bin ein Widgetmessy der  viele Webanwendungen verwendet, selbige gern vom Desktop . Somit sind sie fuer mich recht schnell in Gebrauch und wieder auffindbar . Mozilla, die Muttergesellschaft von Firefox arbeitet an einem Projekt, dass es ermoeglicht, Verknuepfungen von Webanwendungen auf dem Desktop meinen Arbeitsplatzes zu verknuepfen. Nennt sich Prism. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism (tags: desktop web applications browser) [...]

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[...] Aktualizováno 28. 10. 2007:Hezký příklad probíhající integrace web aplikací s desktopem přináší Prism od Mozilla Labs. Via Marek Prokop [...]

[...] Dai Mozialla Labs questo interessante tool, Prism, che trasforma tutte le vostre web application preferite in applicazioni desktop. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism Personal computing is currently in a state of transition. While traditionally users have interacted mostly with desktop applications, more and more of them are using web applications. But the latter often fit awkwardly into the document-centric interface (tags: applications web_2.0 windows linux) [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism Mozilla Labs is launching a series of experiments to bridge the divide in the user experience between web applications and desktop apps and to explore new usability models as the line between traditional desktop and new web applications continues to blur. (tags: application blogging browser computer software) [...]

[...] Prism, basato sul codice di Firefox, è un software che permette di far funzionare applicazioni web come applicazioni indipendenti, normalmente installate sul computer, ma che si aggiornano senza intervento dell’utente, che hanno accesso alla rete internet per gestire dati e informazioni: il futuro di questo progetto prevederà la possibilità di salvare dati in locale e utilizzare le potenzialità 3D delle schede grafiche. [...]

[...] I don’t know anything about software marketing, but if I had to give an impromptu lecture on the subject right now, I’d use the following two posts (with comments) as virtual handouts: Mozilla Labs on Prism and Mike Chambers (of Adobe) on Mozilla Prism and the disingenuous web. [...]

[...] Will that change?  Perhaps.  Just last week, Mozilla announced a new initiative (Prism) intended to present existing Web applications (Gmail, Zimbra, Facebook, Webmail etc) as what appears to all intents and purposes to be a desktop application.  While details are still a bit sniffy, one comment caught my attention: …… we’re also working to increase the capabilities of those apps by adding functionality to the Web itself, such as providing support for offline data storage and access to 3D graphics hardware. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs has launched what it says is a series of experiments designed to “bridge the divide in the user experience between web applications and desktop apps.” The first release is Prism the new name for WebRunner. Prism allows you to create desktop-like apps out of individual websites. [...]

[...] Hier gibts auch einen RSS Feed fuer deinen RSS Feed Reader. So hast du alle neuen Beitraege dauerhaft im Blick =)Momentan wird eine neue Sau durch das Mozilla’sche Dorf getrieben. Prism. Vormals unter dem Namen Webrunner bekannt. Web Applikationen wie Googlemail & Co (oder jede andere Webseite) werde in einem “Prismfenster” dargestellt (technisch natürlich auf dem Stand von Firefox). Die Installation von Prism erfolgt wie jede andere Anwendung aus dem Hause Mozilla – inklusive Profilordner unter%appdata% (nur Windows). [...]

I think this is a good idea for more and more people need both dekstop and web apps that is seamlessy work in the same time. Awesome!

A few comments, for Prism, in general, and re:AIR.

I think that if Prism can address the following it would be useful:
1) FF JS memory issues. (REALLY IMPORTANT)
2) startup time (also REALLY IMPORTANT)
3) before it becomes a problem, PLEASE let’s standardize the offline web technology (AIR, Gears, FF3, Silverlight1.1, what else?)
4) Make this part of FF3.

It feels like in round 1 (Web 1.0), IE killed NS. In round 2 (Web 2.0), FF pushed IE into a draw. And the offline/desktop web will probably be round 3 / Web 3.0, altho no media journalist seems to see it coming (they talk about the semantic web, which is probably round 5/6).

Imo, AIR does seem to be the same thing except that it’s proprietary, further along in development than Prism, and relies on a Opera/Webkit browser rather than a FF/Gecko browser, and requires slightly more effort than a Prism app (yeah, it’s ‘just one XML file’, but that’s been said about so many other technologies). The documentation is more obscure for a non-Adobe-tool-user than it really ought to be. (Where’s your “app in 5 minutes” Youtube link on the main site?, instead of being 3-4 links away?)

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism (tags: Mozilla) [...]

[...] Prism è un’applicazione che permette di utilizzare tutte queste applicazioni, e molte altre, dal nostro Desktop. Il programma è ancora in via di sviluppo ma è già disponibile una versione beta del programma. [...]

You’re missing the point, most of you. (But Kyle Brady got it: http://www.kyle-brady.com/2007/10/26/the-continued-mozilla-syndrome/ ).

It’s not about removing the toolbars or creating an icon. It’s about running it in a separate process. The toolbar and icon are window dressing (no pun intended). If you tried it and didn’t find it any faster than a browser tab, then either (1) you didn’t try it long enough, or (2) you don’t use the browser heavily enough. Try to use GMail, Google Docs and Google Reader in three browser tabs vs. three Prism windows and you’ll see what we mean.

[...] WebRunner正式命名为Prism越来越明朗化，WebApp在未来将逐步的取代目前的软件。Mozilla也将Prism正式纳入Mozilla实验室的发展蓝图中。 [...]

[...] http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] سمعنا كثيرا خلال الفترة الماضية عن تقنيات Adobe AIR و Microsoft Silverlight و هي التقنيات التي تهدف الى خلق بيئة وسيطة بين الويب و بيئة الحاسب العادية الغير متصلة بالانترنت. و منذ 3 أيام أعلنت Mozilla عن دخولها الساحة مع غيرها في هذا المجال, فقد كشفت الشركة النقاب عن تقنيتها الجديدة المسماة بMozilla Prism و التي تعمل على اعطاء برمجيات الويب القدرة على العمل على بيئة الحاسب العادية مع استمرار دمج بعض الوظائف التي قد تحتاج الويب أثناء العمل. [...]

[...] 26.10.07 | Инженерия ПО, Веб 2.0 Только я порадовался, что Adobe выпустил интересный продукт AIR, который позволяет разрабатывать и переносить веб-приложения под стандартные ОС (Win/Mac), как Mozilla Labs выпустила крайне интересный продукт Prism. [...]

[...] Mozilla vient de lancer un nouveau projet, Prism : le chaînon manquant entre les applications en ligne et les RDA. [...]

[...] Un projet Mozilla vient de montrer le bout de son nez cette semaine, il s’agit de Prism. [...]

[...] Es en este marco en el que se anuncia Prism, una tecnolog�a de los creadores de firefox que no es novedosa en lo esencial, pero que se lanzar� justo en el momento en el que buena parte de los usuarios estar�n m�s acostumbrados a usar herramientas online propias del 2.1 que residentes en sus propios ordenadores. [...]

[...] Désolé si je ne vous fais pas un article détaillé sur XULrunner, nombreux sont ceux qui ont une expertise sur le sujet, mais pas moi ! Pour caricaturer et vulgariser, XUL est le coeur de Firefox et Thunderbird, et permet de construire des applications complètes à l’aide des technologies Web. C’est, en quelque sorte, l’ancètre des R.I.A. (vous savez, notre futur informatique !), comme Adobe AIR (pour ceux qui connaissent) : il s’agit de faire d’un site web une application à part entière, comme si, et c’est l’exemple utilisé par Adobe, Ebay n’était pas un site web que vous consultez dans votre navigateur, mais un programme installé dans votre ordinateur. Mozilla s’est lancé dans l’aventure, en permettant à n’importe quel site web de devenir une application : il s’agit de Mozilla Prism, que j’ai essayé pour vous. J’ai essayé de transformer quelques uns des outils Google que je pratique au quotidien, comme GMail, Google Agenda ou Google Docs. Hélas, il n’y a eu que GMail à fonctionner une fois sauvegardé… Pour les autres, il m’a fallu à chaque fois rentrer à nouveau les URLs des outils : un échec partiel donc. Je trouve par opposition très réussi le logiciel TomTom Home (logiciel pour les GPS TomTom), qui lors de sa mise à jour est devenu une application fonctionnant à l’aide de XULrunner ! Très réactif, le logiciel bénéficie aussi d’un interface graphique fort agréable,  qui gomme les frontières entre le web et l’application, une vraie réussite ! [...]

[...] Prism, ahora Mozilla intentando cambiar la web con su aplicacion que tratara de sacar el contenido en linea a una ventana fuera [Mozilla Labs] [...]

@mike chambers,
Push AIR for Linux and maybe so many geeks wouldn’t be so excited about an alternative. The cycle doesn’t end. We don’t have AIR because Flash was late in coming.

By the way this news hasn’t changed for months. Anything new you can tell us about AIR for Linux?

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http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Apollo:developerfaq
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1.11 Does Adobe AIR support Linux?

Adobe AIR 1.0 will not be available on Linux. We plan to release Linux support shortly after the 1.0. release.

While we had originally planned to support Linux in the 1.0 timeframe, we have had to wait on the core Flash Player’s support for Linux to be finalized.

[...] Interesante concepto. Imagino algunas aplicaciones web destinadas a correr como utilidades de escritorio. Un ejemplo notable es prism, que lamentablmente sólo está disponible para Windows por ahora ¿? y no he podido probar [...]

[...] Therefore the interesting question is not “how do we best integrate Firefox with GNOME?”, but “how do we best integrate GMail (etc) with GNOME?” We’ve got some ideas but there’s a lot more that could be done. addthis_url = ‘http%3A%2F%2Fgetfirefoxbrowsers.com%2F2007%2F10%2Flinux-matters-addendum’; addthis_title = ‘Linux+Matters%2C+Addendum’; addthis_pub = ”; Thank you for reading this post. You can now Leave A Comment (0) or Leave A Trackback. [...]

[...] 28, 2007 – By Daksh Sharma – 0 Comments » – Bookmark Is Mozilla Labs trying to compete with Adobe,s AIR/ Microsoft’s Silverlight? Thatis the first question which struck my mind when I heard the news about Mozilla’sPrism. Yeah Prism! It is Mozilla’s new attempt to bring web-applications to desktop users. [...]

To all those complaining about how is this different from xxxx based on Internet Explorer – and whats the difference from just having a new tab open in FF.

1) CROSS PLATFORM – article states Mac + Linux builds available soon. I can see some huge benefits for Prism on both of these OS’s.

2) Why better than a FF tab? Because you can kill your regular browser without having to reopen your regular applications. FF has more memory leaks than a sieve – try not closing the FF browser for a week and then see how much memory it’s using.

3) Is it better than AIR? Who cares. It might be, it might not be. But it’s a very nice addition to the open source development stack!

4) Why the excitement? If you’ve ever tried to customize Mozilla with XUL you’ll already understand how Prism could be a much better option! Developing an embedded browser designed to work exclusively with a single web application….

and don’t even get me started on using Prism to deliver Kiosk based services – something traditionally in the domain of IE, there are a *LOT* of possibilities here.

I used to do a lot of cross platform thin client web based development and kiosk development, Prism would have saved me hours and hours of headaches and problems if it was around three years ago! Instead I spent two months toiling around with Mozilla XUL and eventually giving up the R+D and just licensing a competitively priced piece of Windows kiosk software.

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism “Mozilla Labs is launching a series of experiments to bridge the divide in the user experience between web applications and desktop apps and to explore new usability models as the line between traditional desktop and new web applications continues to blur (tags: prism firefox windows desktop application) [...]

hmm…….a web page still looks and feels like a web page when opened in prism. besides, doesn’t the name sound like “prison”?

Prism : du Web au bureau…

Mozilla, bien connue pour Firefox se lance dans un nouveau projet nommé Prism.

Prism, à l’instar de Adobe AIR, permet de créer facilement une application autonome à partir des technologies que nous utilisons habituellement dans le domai…

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[...] As if on queue, Mozilla released the windows version of Prism this week. Prism is intended to be a simple desktop viewer for your favorite web applications, but I believe it has the ability to become much, much more. Although browser based, Prism solves the issues I mentioned with web browsers. It does interpret code, but if your application was made to run in Firefox, then Prism will display it exactly as you intended. [...]

[...] The Mozilla Foundation has announced a new program called Prism. Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop. A prototype version for Windows is available for download. [...]

will mozilla ever create something like Nvu or netscape composer? if there allready is something, please notify me as I am very interested. thanks, and keep up the good work.

Mark

[...] Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop. Prism lets users add their favorite web apps to their desktop environment, when invoked, these applications run in their own window. [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism [...]

so far it’s an useless stuff
a shortcut for gmail – so what?
i just launch firefox and as a homepage i’ve got gmail
so what’s the difference!

[...] Prism: interesante experimento de mozilla labs en la línea Adobe Air o MS Silverlight (http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/). # [...]

[...] Prism este o incercare a Mozilla de a schimba acest lucru si de a diminua din diferentele intre cele 2 tipuri de aplicatii si modul in care sunt percepute acestea de catre utilizatori. Mozilla nu este prima care incearca acest lucru, AIR de la Adobe si Silverlight de la Microsoft fiind adevarate platforme pentru dezvoltarea de aplicatii ce ruleaza atat pe web, cat si pe desktop, cu accent pe capabilitatile multimedia ale acestora. [...]

[...] Od dłuższego czasu mówiło się o zbyt bliskiej współpracy Mozilli z Google i o kilku kontrowersyjnych posunięciach jak np. sprawa znacznika ping lub nieinformowanie o wysyłaniu danych o odwiedzanych stronach do Google (w ramach filtru antyphischingowego). Pojawiały się teorie, że tak naprawdę Thunderbird został odsunięty na bok właśnie na prośbę Google (jako konkurent Gmaila) co można by było powiązać z projektem Prism umożliwiającym obsługę aplikacji webowych (w tym Gmaila) jako normalnych aplikacji lokalnych (dzięki Google Gearbox niepotrzebny będzie do pracy tryb online). Dyskusyjny jest w tym świetle fakt umieszczania głównie produktów G na screenach przedstawiających Prism- dostrzegłem Gmaila (2x), Google Calendar (3x) i Google Reader a z pozagooglowych produktów jedynie Twittera i Facebook (o który G przegrał niedawno bój z Microsoftem). [...]

[...] Die Grenze zwischen Desktop-Anwendungen und Web-Anwendungen ist in den letzten Jahren mehr und mehr durchlässig geworden. Neben Social-Web Anwendungen finden auch viele Office-Replacements, Organisations-Tools, To-Do List-Applikationen, Zeiterfassungs-Anwendungen und viele weitere “klassische” Desktop-Agenden als Web-Anwendungen breite Akzeptanz und vielfältigen Einsatz. Und das oft mit erstaunlichem Funktionsumfang und beinahe Desktop-Usability-Feel. Ein maßgeblicher Nachteil bleibt allerdings dabei bestehen: Die Browser als “Laufzeitumgebung” sind mit ihrem dokument-zentrierten Ansatz nicht die optimale Umgebung für eine Web-Anwendung: [...]

[...] Per quelli che usano applicazioni Web come per esempio, Google Calendar, FaceBook, Twinter e Gmail , oggi vi presentiamo l’ultima creazione del MozillaLabs: Prism. Prism è un’applicazione che permette di utilizzare tutte queste applicazioni, e molte altre, dal nostro Desktop, come se si trattasse di normali programmi installati sul nostro PC. Il software si basa sul codice di Firefox, questo a garanzia di grande stabilità dell’applicazione. Il programma è ancora in via di sviluppo ma è già disponibile una versione beta del programma. Sicuramente un’applicazione da provare, e uno sviluppo da tenere sotto controllo. [...]

[...] Je consulte quotidiennement les flux RSS où je suis abonné, et en ce moment il est à noter un nombre important d’articles sur le nouveau projet de la fondation mozilla. “Mozilla Prism“. En gros cela permettrait de lancer des sites internet sans navigateur. En fait c’est bel et bien avec un navigateur mais sans menu, ni boite à outils. C’est trés bien mais … Ce n’est pas nouveau ! [...]

[...] Which makes Mozilla’s latest invention, Prism, seem a bit of a weird step backwards; Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop. [...]

[...]   Mozilla Lab于上周release了一款轻量级的桌面软件Prism，官方称，该软件旨在消除网络与桌面软件在用户体验上的差别，探索传统桌面与新一代互联网应用软件融合的新应用模式。很明显，它的发展方向和Adobe AIR是相同的，尽管在发布Blog中一再强调它和Adobe AIR目标不同。Prism 建立在Firefox内核基础上，很轻松地就支持了几乎所有的互联网技术如HTML, JavaScript, CSS 等，并且加载速度比浏览器要快得多，同时这也意味着可能会丧失一些功能。 [...]

As far as I can see, this amazing application that’s generating so much buzz is basically glorified wrapper of javascript:window.open(…) !!

With the options to hide the toolbars and nav buttons.

Puhleez!! this really isn’t worth my time.

I could have whipped out my Delphi or VC# IDE and written this app in the time it’s taken me to read this hyperbolic article and the sycophantic comments following it.

Un-friggin-believable.

Clearly, Mozilla has lots of bored developers. The smart thing to do would have been to add this functionality to Firefox, which I love to bits BTW, and create a simple API for developers to use to securely deploy their web apps onto users’ desktops/browsers for easy launching and an un-cluttered runtime environment. Dayamn! What that could do for Firefox… Hell, I’d be pushing Firefox into our corporate clients that use our web apps!

But to deploy a fat client application, just to run thin-client web apps, is just, well, redundant. And to generate this kind of hype over something so patently retarded is just, well, irresponsible.

[...] Dashboard Widgets on Windows with Widgetop on Prism The Mozilla Labs just released a demo of their new Prism platform. It makes it easy to run any web application outside of your web browser on your native desktop just like any other desktop application. For the moment it only runs on Windows but Linux and Mac OS X support is promised to come soon. [...]

I don’t know if it’s an interesting idea.

Sascha talks about development on Prism and I wonder if there’s some development tool, or it’s planned.

It would be interesting to count with some example application showing what Prism could offer besides GMail

Good Work.

Where does it save downloaded files? After a download, the file doesn’t appear in the downloads window, and it’s not on the desktop or in Firefox’s standard downloads folder. I could search my whole harddisk now, but is there a short answer?

[...] I Mozilla Labs hanno recentemente reso disponibile un software simile a Google Gears, chiamato Mozilla Prism. [...]

[...] Mozilla is jumping into the growing arena of products that are attempting to bridge the web with the desktop. Their offering, Prism, allows developers to create web applications using standard CSS, xHTML, JavaScript, etc. and then run these from the desktop as a standard application. [...]

[...] On Friday, Mozilla announced Prism, a way of blurring the line between the desktop and the web experience. Prism is based on WebRunner, a stripped-down browser that “hosts web applications without the normal web browser user interface” and has “a tighter integration with the OS and desktop than a typical web application running through a web browser.” [...]

Very interesting project. I have a weird problem though. Prism created shortcuts on my desktop for GMail and Calendar and they work great. When I try to do the same with Google Maps the webapp link gets created, but double-clicking on it just opens Prism configuration dialog box. Any ideas why?

Andrzej

[...] Mozilla has announced a new application that has been placed in Labs called Prism. Prism takes WebRunner and let’s it integrate nicely into the target operating system. [...]

[...] A Windows version of Prism is available here while a Mac and Linux version are in the pipeline. [...]

[...] Prism from. Mozilla Labs Blog Mozilla Prism: Refracting The Web Onto Your Desktop from. Wired Prism lets users add their favorite web apps to their desktop environment: [...]

[...] 上次说过十分喜欢的 WebRunner，看好它以本地应用的体验提供 web app 的功能，这次看来 Mozilla 打算动真格的了，作为 bridge the divide in the user experience between web applications and desktop apps 的一步，Mozilla Labs 启动了 Prism — 这是 WebRunner 的新名字。 [...]

[...] Lo último de Mozilla es Prism, una aplicación que convierte cualquier página en una aplicación. Para ello usa la potencia que XUL le permite aportar a este tipo funcionalidades. [...]

For me, this would be really useful if I could effectively bundle up Firefox as a single .exe/.app package and distribute it to user which would launch the “application” and be taken directly to our web application start page straight away. No messy installs, no “Administrator rights required to run this”, etc. etc. tom

This is a really good effort. However, I find that AIR starts faster than Prism. May be the stable release would be fast.

The argument that Prism is no different from IE window without toolbar is baseless. If that is the case I can say AIR is no different from a projector .exe file.

There is no official release of AIR and Silverlight for Linux right now. On 29 October, 2007, I see a linux version of prism too.

Someone argue that CANVAS may not be made available by MS. The same argument applies to flash and silverlight formats. They use non-standard file formats.

This Mike Chambers from Adobe is here only to promote AIR before Prism gains ground.

[...] Come precedentemente annunciato Mozilla è alle prese per costruire delle applicazioni che abbiano l’obiettivo di migliorare l’interazione con la sempre più vasta gamma di applicazioni basate sul web. “Mozilla Labs” ha comunicato di essere al lavoro su Prism, tecnologia che renderà ancora più sfumata la linea di confine tra applicazioni desktop e web. [...]

[...] Para ver o anúncio, clique aqui (em inglês). [...]

[...] Proprio per ovviare a questi problemi Mozilla ha reso pubblico un progetto denominato Prism che punta a rendere disponibili le applicazioni web come normali programmi desktop. [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism A piece of Mozilla software that lets you run your online applications directly from your desktop. [...]

[...] So when I read that Mozilla created the Prism project I really couldn’t think of a valid application as I could just have tabs in Firefox always open.  Well I have found a use for it and it is for streaming website’s like Pandora or Jango, so they always have their own browser window and I don’t have to worry about accidentally closing it and interrupting my music while I work.  Isn’t technology great? var OutbrainPermaLink=”http://danieltmurphy.com/blog/?p=272″; var OB_demoMode = false; if ( typeof(OB_Script)!=’undefined’ ) OutbrainStart(); else { var OB_Script = true; var str = “”; document.write(str); } Posted in Software by Dan RSS 2.0 Powered by WordPress | Dressed with Rusty v1.04 Designed by Martin Mihalev [...]

[...] Мозилла анонсировала свое новое приложение – Prism. Продолжение webrunner. [...]

[...] oficjalna informacja z Mozilla blog: http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] Fonte [...]

[...] The web application revolution keeps growing stronger. Yesterday Mozilla posted about their attempt to shrink the gap between a traditional deskptop and new web applications. Their solution, called Prism, is a web application that allows users to run browser-based applications from their desktop. They already have a prototype available for those of you that are interested in giving it a spin. [...]

uhh…i think I missed the point. I can drop a TWebBrowser on a form in C++ Builder/Delphi and get this exact “platform”.

[...] Outubro 29, 2007 Posted by analistati in Atualidades, Redes e Internet, Tecnologia. trackback A Fundação Mozilla (desenvolvedora do navegador Firefox), lançou um programa para integraraplicativos web com a área de trabalho do Windows. Batizado de Prism, o software pode habilitar, por exemplo, o Gmail ou o Google Reader direto no desktop. A novidade foi anunciada nesta semana no blog do Mozilla Labs. [...]

[...] Interesting new piece of software from Mozilla: Prism makes Gmail, Facebook, Meebo and other web web apps easier to use by treating them as separate desktop apps. Very useful. Windows only, beta. [...]

[...] Enlace: Mozilla Prism Comparte este articulo:Estos íconos enlazan con webs de marcadores sociales que permiten a los lectores compartir y descubrir nuevas webs. [...]

[...] Mike Chambers, the author of the post, objected to this statement from Mozilla’s Prism page: [...]

[...] Mozilla has announced a new application that has been placed in Labs called Prism. Prism takes WebRunner and let’s it integrate nicely into the target operating system. [...]

[...] Full details Here [...]

[...] The Prism Project from Mozilla [...]

[...] Via anieto2k me entero de Mozilla Prism, una Herramienta que saco la fundacion Mozilla, la cual nos permitira ejecutar paginas web como si se trataran de Aplicaciones de escritorio, copio y pego los detalles. [...]

It already works with Opera!

http://my.opera.com/zomg/blog/2007/10/29/mozilla-prism-a-fancy-name-for-a-technology-as-old-as-the-browser

[...] Publié dans Firefox, In English, Informatique, Sûreté tagged .net, air, dashboard, Firefox, flash, flex, gecko, internet explorer, javascript, JStify, konfabulator, prism, security, sidebars, silverlight, thunderbird, webkit, webrunner, widgets, xul, yahoo! widgets à 8:47 par yoric A few weeks ago, I wrote about the safety of extensions to Web browsers. In the meantime, the landscape of web browsing has changed a lot, at least for developers. Why ? Because of Adobe Air, Microsoft Silverlight and Mozilla Prism, three tools used to put the web on your desktop. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog StumbleUpon [...]

[...] mozilla labs: Prism Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop. (tags: application development internet web software ria) [...]

[...] Esta será, sem qualquer dúvida e num futuro muito próximo, a forma de acedermos às aplicações que utilizamos diariamente. Experimentem o Prism! [...]

[...]  Prism 是不是厌倦了每天打"www.hotmail.com"或是点了IE再点书签的动作? Mozilla的Prism将可以把你经常用的Web application装在桌面上, 从而使你可以更快捷的得到你想要的信息. [...]

[...] prism – Mozilla Labs http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs представила на днях свою новую разработку, получившую название Prism. [...]

[...] Ever since Google updated the web-based Google Talk gadget, I’ve firmly felt that the web-based Google Talk is head and shoulders above the desktop client (if you don’t need file transfer or voice calls, that is). Last week we told you about Prism, Mozilla’s update to the stripped-down browser and web application environment WebRunner. Put the two together (using this URL when you create the Prism application) and you’ve got what feels very much like a desktop version of the Google Talk gadget. Prism is still very early in development, currently Windows-only, and—honestly—requires way more memory than I’d like (around 30MB for my Google Talk), but with more time and development, the single-use approach to web applications as desktop apps could catch on. Thanks Jon! Prism [Mozilla Labs Blog] [...]

[...]   Tagsalternative blogs fairtrade lausanne music shoppingMy del.icio.usMozilla Labs Blog � Blog Archive � Prism 2 hours, 52 minutes agoprism ux web-desktop-applications Sim Daltonism 3 hours, 3 minutes agoaccessibility colourblindess OmniGraffle Wireframe Palette Update (25 Oct 2007) | urlgreyhot 3 hours, 5 minutes agoomnigraffle ui webdesign wireframes FredCavazza.net � Un panorama de l?Entreprise 2.0 publi� par le Gartner Group 3 hours, 11 minutes agoenterprise2.0 gartner What if Jakob Nielsen had a blog?: 3 hours, 14 minutes agonielsen usability [...]

[...] Now that Prism has launched, a lot of people have been suggesting features and various directions Mozilla Labs could potentially take the experiment in the future. Here is a collection of ideas that people have recently suggested, and some things I’ve been thinking about in the back of my head. Please feel free to post your own ideas in the comments. [...]

[...] Ever since Google updated the web-based Google Talk gadget, I’ve firmly felt that the web-based Google Talk is head and shoulders above the desktop client (if you don’t need file transfer or voice calls, that is). Last week we told you about Prism, Mozilla’s update to the stripped-down browser and web application environment WebRunner. Put the two together (using this URL when you create the Prism application) and you’ve got what feels very much like a desktop version of the Google Talk gadget. Prism is still very early in development, currently Windows-only, and—honestly—requires way more memory than I’d like (around 30MB for my Google Talk), but with more time and development, the single-use approach to web applications as desktop apps could catch on. Thanks Jon! Prism [Mozilla Labs Blog] [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism Mozilla Labs is launching a series of experiments to bridge the divide in the user experience between web applications and desktop apps and to explore new usability models as the line between traditional desktop and new web applications continues to blur. (tags: desktop software firefox) [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism Portable Hace algunos dias platicaba sobre el proyecto de Mozilla llamado WebRunner. Hace una semana le han cambiado de nombre y le han puesto mas ganas a este proyecto que ha sido bien aceptado por los usuarios de aplicaciones web. Ahora el proyecto WebRunner cambia a Mozilla Prism. Y bueno tenemos una extensa explicación sobre Mozilla Prism en esta liga (Inglés) http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/. [...]

[...] Looks like Mozilla has added WebRunner to it’s Mozilla Labs line up and changed the name to Prism. From what they say, it’s going to be a cross between an open version of Adobe Air and Microsoft Silverlight and a localized lancher for web applications. Which, by my definition, is what utility computing is supposed to be like. Prism is currently for Windows only (they’d better hurry up with a Linux version), but it runs the same webapp files and also has added style sheet support – among other things – so you can style your webapps your way. [...]

[...] Mozilla vient de lancer l’application PRISM. Le principe de PRISM est de placer un raccourci d’une application web ou d’un site Internet sur le bureau de Windows. Depuis ce raccourci, vous pourrez lancer cette application dans une fenêtre Windows et non plus depuis votre navigateur. Il s’agit tout simplement d’un lanceur d’applications web qui apporte comme avantage de ne pas avoir à réécrire vos identifiants à chaque connexion ! [...]

[...] Prism Brainstorming Now that Prism has launched, a lot of people have been suggesting features and various directions Mozilla Labs could potentially take the experiment in the future. Here is a collection of ideas that people have recently suggested, and some things I’ve been thinking about in the back of my head. Please feel free to post your own ideas in the comments. [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism is an interesting product. What I really like is that it requires no real extra work for your app to run in it. With some additional effort you can potentially add some great stuff (offline support for example). It’s too early to develop applications for it just yet, but it does show off some serious potential. I did two tests as an example: [...]

I think the manner of opening new windows is not friendly.
when clicking the external link, the prism try to open the link in one exist defaul browser window.
but the exist defaul browser window is working for other things….all form data will lose..

so I think the external link windows should open one real NEW window, like the manner “shift+click” in IE.

[...] I just came across this post on Ajaxian. Pretty neat, but kind of useless. In my opinion, i can do the same thing by just saving a shortcut to a website on the desktop. There isn’t much stuff that are brand new or too excited here. Just like that mentioned on the post, comparing to Adobe AIR, it just lacks on the ability to talk to the OS natively. To be, it is nothing but a Firefox that’s compact and compiled to run only one site. Mozilla has announced a new application that has been placed in Labs called Prism. Prism takes WebRunner and let’s it integrate nicely into the target operating system.This means that you can take any web site that you currently visit a lot, and place it in its own process, and you can launch it like any other application. It sits on your desktop for you to run. A modest goal. [...]

[...] Mozilla has released Prisim last week (previously known as WebRunner). [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism “Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop.” (tags: Firefox framework platform Browser applications convergence desktop development extensions mozilla prism) [...]

[...] último de Mozilla es Prism, una aplicación que convierte cualquier página en una aplicación. Para ello usa la potencia que XUL le permite aportar a este tipo funcionalidades. [...]

[...] Eppure non è difficile pensare che, come diceva appunto Jobs, per certi dispositivi le applicazioni da browser siano il futuro. A pensarla così, evidentemente, è anche Mozilla. In questi giorni è stato annunciato sul blog ufficiale il progetto Prism, cioè un browser pensato apposta per le web-app, dando l’impressione di trasformarle in vere applicazioni. PUBBLICITÀ PUBBLICITÀ Come dice lo stesso progetto, le pagine saranno percepite dal sistema come applicazioni, gestibili ad esempio in Exposè. Il browser non sarà pensato intorno ai documenti (con barra dell’indirizzo e pulsanti di navigazione) ma intorno alle applicazioni. L’idea non è particolarmente nuova, già su Mac ad esempio esistono applicazioni come Mailplane, che vuole dare l’impressione di trasformare GMail in un programma. [...]

[...] Ahora Mozilla apoya este proyecto sacando a la luz una aplicación que permitirá convertir cualquier página web en una aplicación. Lo han denominado Prism, y usa XUL para conseguir esos resultados. [...]

[...] Ahora Mozilla apoya este proyecto sacando a la luz una aplicación que permitirá convertir cualquier página web en una aplicación. Lo han denominado Prism, y usa XUL para conseguir esos resultados. [...]

[...] Windows için geliştirilmiş ilk örnek indirilmeye sunuldu. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism [...]

[...] Ich bin ja wirklich Fan von der Idee Web-Applikationen auf dem Desktop zu betreiben wie herkömmliche Programme. Von dem WebRunner habe ich schon geschrieben. Nun wurde das ganze umbenannt nach Prism. Ich warte nun auf die Mac-Version. [...]

[...] bron: Prism, Mozilla.com [...]

[...] Prism: Break web apps out of the browser and onto your desktop [...]

[...] Mozilla on esitellyt työn alla olevan Prism-alustan, jolla on tarkoitus tehdä web-sovelluksista työpöytäohjelmistoja Adoben Air -projektin tapaan. Prism, joka aikaisemmin tunnettiin Webrunner -nimellä, osaa pyörittää websovelluksia suoraan ilman selaimen käyttöliittymää. Kaikki toiminnot tulevat siis web -sovelluksen kautta. [...]

[...] "A dispetto di Adobe AIR e di Microsoft Silverlight, noi non stiamo creando una piattaforma proprietaria per rimpiazzare il web", si legge in questo articolo di Mozilla Labs: "Noi pensiamo che il web sia una piattaforma aperta e potente per questo genere di innovazione, e di conseguenza il nostro obiettivo è quello di identificare e semplificare lo sviluppo di tecnologie che portino nella piattaforma web i vantaggi tradizionalmente legati alle applicazioni desktop". [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs анонсировала Prism – платформу для запуска веб-приложений на десктопе. Prism основан на проекте Webrunner, также разрабатываемого Mozilla’ой. Prism позволяет запускать веб-приложения напрямую с рабочего стола пользователя без участия браузера. Подробнее о Prism. [...]

[...] Ever since Google updated the web-based Google Talk gadget, I’ve firmly felt that the web-based Google Talk is head and shoulders above the desktop client (if you don’t need file transfer or voice calls, that is). Last week we told you about Prism, Mozilla’s update to the stripped-down browser and web application environment WebRunner. Put the two together (using this URL when you create the Prism application) and you’ve got what feels very much like a desktop version of the Google Talk gadget. Prism is still very early in development, currently Windows-only, and—honestly—requires way more memory than I’d like (around 30MB for my Google Talk), but with more time and development, the single-use approach to web applications as desktop apps could catch on. Thanks Jon! Prism [Mozilla Labs Blog] [...]

[...] It works this way: first you install Mozilla Prism. Then you start the app and type in the URL of the website you want to take with you to the desktop. Whooptedoo and you have a “standalone application”. Really, it’s like a dedicated Firefox for your application: no toolbars, just the website. [...]

[...] Read a full detailed description here These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]

[...] Oct 30th, 2007 by deepakd If you though those technologies were interesting, it looks like there is a newcomer that aims to challenge them by enabling us to keep the web inside an app. Mozilla’s offering is interesting because it doesn’t force us to learn a completely new technology: http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] A new great idea from the ppl at Mozilla, it’s almost too simple to be taken seriously. They came up with Prism as a tool for generating stand-alone applications from web applications. While this may sound a bit cheesy, it actually works great because of the quick loading and the removal of navigation buttons. [...]

[...] O Mozilla Labs, unidade experimental da Fundação Mozilla (desenvolvedora do navegador Firefox), lançou um programa para integrar aplicativos web com a área de trabalho do Windows. Batizado de Prism, o software pode habilitar, por exemplo, o Gmail ou o Google Reader direto no desktop. A novidade foi anunciada nesta semana no blog do Mozilla Labs. [...]

[...] No blog da Mozilla Labs há mais informações e imagens (vale a pena conferir só por estas últimas). [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Prism benieuwd hoe dat zich ontwikkeld [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism [...]

[...] Weekly wrapup 30 10 2007 Its been quite some time since I have blogged. This time I have been genuinely busy. Ever since I moved to Bangalore, I have limited internet and computer access. It is only in office that i have it and I have no personal computer at home. I might buy it soon, but until then I would have to go through these tiny difficulties. Nevertheless, all these days I have been feeling a little guilty. I haven’t studied much either. I planned to learn J2EE and get my hands wet with the server side technologies. I haven’t done much of it, and I just started reading a book on Java. Keeping all that aside, I managed to get grab some interesting news on the RIA front. Adobe AIR, Silverlight and other similar technologies, have a new competitor facing them now. It is called Prism by Mozilla.To quote a few lines from their website “Unlike Adobe AIR and Microsoft Silverlight, we’re not building a proprietary platform to replace the web. We think the web is a powerful and open platform for this sort of innovation, so our goal is to identify and facilitate the development of enhancements that bring the advantages of desktop apps to the web platform.” But inspite of that sentence, the difference between Adobe AIR and similar technologies and Mozilla Prism isn’t very clear. The difference I am emphasizing is on the technology perspective not on who is owning what. At this point I cannot exactly say that the two are competing technologies. I guess I need a little more insight into Prism.  It definitely sounds promising, and I am looking towards gaining more information on it. I am not sure about the language in which it is build…Python may be,…I am not too sure. I haven’t installed Prism as yet..but I guess I should go ahead and do that now. Another news this week is about the very popular GMail.  GMail is now talking about its new GMail 2.0. A little googling and you can find some interesting snapshots. Well thats it for now..will write more soon. [...]

[...] La Fondation Mozilla a publié la semaine dernière une nouvelle version de WebRunner qui s’appelle maintenant Prism. [...]

[...] Mozilla just announced a new project, Prism, which transforms Web applications into traditional, desktop-based programs. [...]

Mozilla Labs Blog: Prism…

Mozilla Labs announces Prism—an application that allows you to run Web apps on the desktop—and immediately stirs passions over in the Adobe AIR camp.
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c super on comprend rien a ce ke vous dite!!

parle pas francais…

[...] O Mozilla Labs começou a trabalhar em um novo projeto denominado Prism, um software semelhante ao Adobe Air. A idéia é fazer com que os serviços online (Gmail, Google Calendar, Yahoo! Mail, etc) funcionem como se fossem aplicativos offline. [...]

[...] Check it out  [...]

Hi all!

I downloaded this application thinking I will be impressed by Prism.
Unfortunately, I am a little bit disappointed by the finality of this application… I mean, what is the difference between
1 – An “application” created with Prism
2 – A drag and drop from an URL in my Firefox to my desktop

???

Cheers,
Ben

[...] Подробное описание Prism Скачать Prism —————- Now playing: 1200 mics — Salvia Divinorum [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism: not there yet! published: October 30th, 2007 From Mozilla’s Lab blog post: Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop. I was intrigued. [...]

Monday Links – 2007-10-29…

Here Come the Cloud Computers…

[...] Oct 30, 2007 in noutăţiTags: adobe, air, mozilla, prism Mozilla a lansat o platformă pentru dezvoltare de aplicaţii intitulată Prism. Ideea e foarte interesantă şi permite folosirea unor aplicaţii web gen Gmail sau FaceBook în propria lor fereastră, precum o aplicaţie desktop. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog | Prism  : : "Mozilla Labs is launching a series of experiments to bridge the divide in the user experience between web applications and desktop apps and to explore new usability models as the line between traditional desktop and new web applications continues to blur."  [...]

[...] موزيلا تدخل السباق ببرنامج أسمه Prism منافس ل Adobe Air , مهمة البرنامج تحويل اى تطبيق موجود على الويب الى تطبيق يعمل على سطح المكتب (بضغطة زر فقط) , للمزيد من اتفاصيل وللتحميل . [...]

[...] [...]

[...] Mozilla et le projet PRISM 30 10 2007 Mozilla a annoncé un projet très intéressant et proche des concepts d’Adobe AIR: le projet PRISM. Si je comprends bien le descriptif du projet, il s’agit d’exécuter une application web non plus dans le navigateur mais dans un espace clôt (sans barre de navigation), dans une fenêtre dédiée. Il sera alors possible de lancer cette application web à l’aide d’un raccourci sur le bureau ou depuis le menu applications de l’OS. Je suis séduit par ce projet pour plusieurs raisons.Mozilla en mettant en avant ce projet valide plusieurs points: [...]

[...] Prism, développé par la fondation Mozilla, s’appuie sur Firefox et supprime tout le superflu comme les boutons de navigation, la barre d’adresse, les menus, pour fournir une fenêtre simple n’affichant qu’une seule page, celle de votre application web. En configurant plusieurs instances de Prism, une sur chacune de nos applications les plus courantes, on obtient des versions desktop de nos services web préférés. Lancer Gmail d’un click dans le menu Démarrer, naviguer de service en service par Alt+Tab, poser des icônes de vos applications web sur votre bureau, tout cela devient possible. [...]

[...] Getest en te licht bevonden: Prism. ‘t Is gewoon Firefox zonder menu- en werkbalken. Én zonder Ad-block, godbetert. OK, je hebt minder tabs nodig in je browser, maar je Windows taskbar wordt dan ook één onoverzichtelijk kluwen van openstaande applicaties. So what, wanneer je nu met een dubbelklik op een desktop-icoontje je GMail kan openen. Één klik op het Firefox-icoontje in m’n Quicklaunch bar en ééntje op het GMail icoontje in m’n werkbalk doen hetzelfde, alleen moet ik m’n muis ietsje verplaatsen. Ach, misschien als ze add-ons voorzien, kan ik er misschien wel op terugkomen. Maar momenteel is het voor mij een maat voor niets. We’re also thinking about how to better integrate Prism with Firefox, enabling one-click “make this a desktop app” functionality that preserves a user’s preferences, saved passwords, cookies, add-ons, and customizations. Ideally you shouldn’t even have to download Prism, it should just be built into your browser. [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism Votez pour cet article : [...]

[...] Agora nas últimas semanas o time Mozilla lançou dois ótimos produtos: o InstantBird, um mensageiro que fala com a maioria das redes atuais (MSN, Talk, Yahoo) (veja mais sobre ele aqui) e agora lançou o Prism, um programa que permitirá sistema online funcionarem de forma offline, uma mão na roda principalmente em caso de webmails, que podem ser baixados e depois usados offline. (veja mais aqui). [...]

[...] I always wanted this! A stand-alone web application, kinda. I just mean put gmail into it’s own application, so I can separatly launch it from the rest, especially when the browser crashes I don’t want to reopen all the sites, or reconnect my meebo, etc. Prism, a mozilla labs project, is here to do it. Great I will follow that! When is that coming based on WebKit? [...]

[...] I know I am quite slow in posting my response to the above, life is very busy at the moment, but I wanted to make my feelings known. The story is that Mozilla has launched Prism as a Mozilla Labs project. Prism, carrying on from WebRunner, is a program that lets you take web applications to the desktop, with their own icons and windows. It is not meant to replace the web, but it has been created to blur the lines between the desktop and the web by allowing access to web services via icons on the desktop or in quick launch or the dock. [...]

[...] Demoro, mas não falho. Como prometido, vou falar um pouco da minha experiência com o Prism, da Mozilla. Antigo WebRunner. [...]

[...] Descarga Prism para Windows Prism en Mozilla Labs [...]

[...] 6. Mozilla Prism: being introduced with Firefox 3.0…very interesting stuff [...]

I installed and tried to access Gmail but the application reported error and crashed. It seems like it has a long way to go. And by the way I am not sure I understand what are the advantages of using Prism over using a browser to open any web application other than opening and typing in the URL and accessing the application.

[...] Mozilla setzt gegen Silverlight und AIR eine eigene Alternative: Prism 0.8 – neuer Name für Mozillas WebRunner – soll Webapplikationen auf den Desktop holen, die als eigenständige Applikationen und mit eigenem Icon genutzt werden können. Prism basiert dabei auf Firefox, stellt die Applikationen aber in einem eigenen Fenster ohne die browsertypischen Bedienelemente dar, und unterstützt HTML, JavaScript, CSS und Canvas und läuft so unter Windows, MacOS X und Linux. Die Version 0.8 ist momentan nur für Windows downloadbar – die Versionen für MacOS und Linux sollen voraussichtlich nächste Woche verfügbar sein. [...]

[...] Eine davon, Prism, stellte Mozilla Labs vor wenigen Tagen vor. Die Anwendung ermöglicht die Verlagerung von Web-Applikationen aus dem Browserfenster auf den Desktop. Genauer heißt es, dass Online-Dienste, die bisher im Browser geladen werden mussten, nun über eine Desktop-Verknüpfung aufgerufen werden und in einem eigenen Fenster auf Desktop laufen können. Somit ist kein durchfosten von Firefox-Tabs mehr notwendig und beliebte Dienste können ins Starmenü eingefügt werden. [...]

[...] E' nato per questo scopo Prism, una piattaforma software per poter chiudere il gap tra la rete e il computer e portare sul proprio computer le applicazioni web. Prism consente di usare le applicazioni web che vogliamo come se fossero dei software installati sul proprio computer potendo quindi lavorare i dati "in locale" (sul proprio hard disk), e indipendentemente dalla connessione a Internet. [...]

[...] Tu Linux con el estilo MAC. vía: How to forge [...]

@mike chambers:

Well, if Adobe Air runs and starts as fast as your typical Adobe product, say for example, Adobe Reader, I don’t think there is going to be anyone using it. Stop developing more bloatware and invest your money in Mozilla. Let soemone who can develope, develop your ideas for you.

[...] Disponible pour l’instant seulement sur Windows, PRISM est téléchargeable ici. [...]

Great! However its totally useless for me untill it supports plugins. And renders things exactly the same as FireFox. Why does it interact differently with things like FILE Upload ?

For the worker bees this is their new Zimbra program ;)

[...] Confira os screenshots para entender melhor: http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

Hmmm… Looks quite… worthless.

What a difference between this “webapp” and just a shortcut placed on desktop?

No ad-blocker and any other plug-ins, no “navigation” (Back). Only Alt+Left/Alt+Right works to navigate between pages.

What is this actually?

@149.Robert MacEwan: So… what you’re saying is that the real point is that you can open gmail and docs and calendar each in a separate *window* instead of opening them in new tabs?! Wow!

Why is this different from placing an “Internet Shortcut” on my desktop or start menu and assigning an icon to it?

I’m sorry but I really don’t see the point.

[...] Recently, there has been quite some emphasis on bringing web applications to the desktop. Not really. But Mozilla Labs is developing an application based on Webrunner and renamed to Prism: Mozilla Labs is launching a series of experiments to bridge the divide in the user experience between web applications and desktop apps and to explore new usability models as the line between traditional desktop and new web applications continues to blur. [...]

Another Bug in gMail message box:

Quotation format not working

As others have noticed, the cursor is not visible in the message box. However, it is visible when working in the to: box or the subject box.

[...] Web applications have and still are web applications and I have not come upon any idea so simple yet so revolutionizing as the WebRunner. To update you upon the news surrounding WebRunner, Mozilla has converted the WebRunner project to a Mozilla Labs Project with a new fascinating name, Prism. When I saw Web Runner I was not amazed at this app itself. My mind was already seeing the future of web applications. It’s behavior was similar to the nature of a desktop application. Yet it ran on the web! It was the perfect example of how we can expect to put our web applications for our future projects. [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism Wärmen wir doch mal alte Ideen wie Microsoft Active Desktop nochmal auf, ja natürlich, dieses mal weitaus besser [...]

[...] Windows için geliştirilmiş ilk örnek indirilmeye sunuldu. [...]

[...] Take a look at Prism [...]

[...] If you have developed web based applications for… let’s call it “simple users” you know that sometimes not having anything besides the page showing can be an advantage. Prism is basically a stripped down browser that runs webapps like they were desktop applications. At first it might seem useless, but sometimes people think applications that run on browsers are just websites and don’t have the same value as a desktop application.For that kind of client, a solution like Prism is the answer.The other good thing is that it runs on the gecko engine, this means you can focus your development on a decent browser and don’t have to bother hacking your css and javascript to work on IE. [...]

I think you’re missing the point about AIR if you think Adobe is trying to develop a “proprietary” app that will “replace the web”. AIR has full support for JavaScript/AJAX and HTML, and it takes nothing more than a simple XML file to move an application from the browser into AIR. AIR has been developed to meet the growing need that Mozilla obviously acknowledges by creating Prism.

AIR also has first class presence on the desktop and embeds the SQLite database.

Those corrections aside, I think Prism sounds really cool, it addresses a need, and I like the idea of being able to run any site or web app in its own application window based on my preferences (not the developer’s configuration of an XML file), but right now it’s little more than a chromeless browser window, and I don’t think it really has any edge over AIR yet either.

Well this is awesome cause I have been using this app for a while… http://www.3d3r.com/bubbles/

But, Yahoo mail does not let Prism run. What browser id is it sending?

“Sorry, the all-new Yahoo! Mail does not support your browser.
You can either download a compatible browser or proceed to Yahoo! Mail Classic.”

What you Mozzers need to do is release an IDE (Eclipse-based?) to ease web development difficulties, or C# guys are going to run with Visual Studio and Silverlight.

[...] Mozilla has recently moved its WebRunner effort to the Mozilla Labs code repository and renamed it Prism. [...]

[...] Компания которая давно заняла почётное место в моем сердце порадовала новостью о запуске нового проекта Prism! В двух словах идея очень проста: у многих из нас есть набор софта который переехал в web. Gmail наверное самый яркий тому пример. Но вообще их весьма и весьма много только от Google я вспомню штук пять которыми пользуюсь вместо оффлайн-аналогов. Запущены они обычно во вкладках Firefox. Что не всегда удобно. Prism позволяет создавать отдельные окна лишённые многих не нужных для подобного рода страниц элементов (адресная строка, менюшки, всякие тулбары и т.д.). Получается, что вы работаете как бы с приложением в отдельном окне. Хотя бы для Gmail я такую программу очень жду. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs annuncia Prism. [...]

Webdevelopers rejoice !
No back buttons !

[...] More information: http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/10/24/prism/ http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

… “It’s about running it in a separate process” …

that seems to be what i’m reading from the proponents. however, when i run multiple “Prism” apps on my windows box at the office, and i execute “Process Explorer” (from SysInternals), i see only *one* “xulrunner.exe” in the Task List.

and if i kill that single xulrunner process, guess what? it killed all three of my “individual” Prism apps – same behavior as if i launched multiple browser windows.

granted, the memory footprint is small, but i can achieve that with Opera or K-Meleon.

… “It’s about running it in a separate process” …

that seems to be what i’m reading from the proponents. however, when i run multiple “Prism” apps on my windows box at the office, and i execute “Process Explorer” (from SysInternals), i see only *one* “xulrunner” in the Task List.

and if i kill that single xulrunner process, guess what? it killed all three of my “individual” Prism apps – same behavior as if i launched multiple browser windows.

granted, the memory footprint is small, but i can achieve that with Opera or K-Meleon.

[...] Un proyecto interesante es justamente Mozilla Prism, una aplicación que permite a cualquier sitio web convertirse en una aplicación de escritorio. [...]

[...] Yes you can. Mozilla Labs has a project called Prism (formerly Webrunner) that allows you to run a web browser like window without the standard web browser functionality. Apart from giving you a more convenient way of launching your web applications it also runs as a separate process than your ordinary web browser. This means that if your web browser crashes or is bogged down with all your tabs, your web application is still safe in it’s own process. Another feature is that you can reach your web application faster than via your web browser. [...]

I think if you try to integrate flash into this prism it would open up to more web applications

[...] What Does Prism Mean for AllPeers? I’ve come out of the closet recently as a big fan of WebRunner, so it was incredibly exciting to see Mozilla officially take the project under its wing with a great new name and branding. As far as I’m concerned, this is where the future’s at. [...]

[...] Erfolgreich verwandelt: WebRunner wird Mozilla Prism Der Minimalisten-Browser WebRunner, der Webanwendungen wie fest installierte Anwendungen innerhalb von Windows erscheinen läßt, ist von Mozilla übernommen worden und heißt jetzt Prism. [...]

[...] Prism: Warten auf die Reife Neu am Minimalisten-Browser Prism scheint nur der Name zu sein. Sonst läuft der Brückenschlag zwischen Webanwendung und fest installierter Software nur bedingt besser als der Vorgänger Webrunner. Die Beta-Beta-Version speichert beim ersten Test nicht einmal die URL der gewünschten Webapplikation, die in einem eigenen Windows-Fenster laufen soll. Neustart heißt Neueingabe. [...]

[...] I recently came across an endevor by Mozilla Labs called Prism.  Well it WAS named WebRunner but is now called Prism.  It basically allows you to package websites into single applications.  For example instead of opening a whole browser with Plug-ins, Bookmarks and the like to update your blog.  You create an application using Prism and then you have a single window to edit your blog in. Read More Below… It may sound a bit complex but it’s NOT.   The project is still in it’s infancy stage but I’ve used it a bit and it’s kinda neat.  Granted having an app for Facebook, Gmail,  Blogger may clutter up your desktop but it frees up your screen when you don’t need tabs, address bars or bookmarks.   A quick hint I found that you MUST name your app with a single word with no spaces.  But if you feel adventurous check out Prism [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog: Prism Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop. (tags: mozilla prism Firefox desktop applications web research) [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism Le widget mozilla ! (tags: innovation outil inter internet software) [...]

[...] Perhaps that is why so many developers continue turning to web based application technologies. Because it does allow for very strong branding yet will still look, at a fundamental level, virtually the same across any number of platforms. The latest Mozilla lab product, Prism, jettisons all but the most rudimentary user interface, leveraging the existing web navigation instead. And that concept is raising eyebrows. [...]

[...] I stumbled on this piece of news today. This was definitely under my radar – although for a good reason. I wasn’t even watching for it (* adds Mozilla Labs feed to Bloglines *). [...]

[...] Prism, précédemment développée sous l’appellation de WebRunner est un projet en version bêta sorti tout droit des labos de la Fondation Mozilla qui permet de transformer n’importe quelle application web en application de bureau. Le programme, pour le moment téléchargeable en version 0.8 pour Windows sera bientôt compatible avec Leopard d’Apple (Mac OS 10.5) et Linux, explique Tristan Nitot, président de Mozilla Europe. [...]

[...] Naujausia Prism 0.8 versija yra tobulesnė už WebRunner. Pagrindiniai privalumai – galimybė kopijuoti nuorodas į atmintį (dabar jau galima naudoti Google Reader kaip programą) ir automatinis tarnybų įkėlimas į darbastalį be iš anksto paruošto „webapp“ failo – Prism, paleista be papildomų raktų, pati paklausia tarnybos adreso, parametrų ir vardo. [...]

… “which allows web applications to run independently” …

… “It’s about running it in a separate process” …

that seems to be what i’m reading from the proponents. however, when i run multiple Prism apps on my windows box at the office, and i execute Process Explorer (from SysInternals), i see only *one* -xulrunner- in the Task List.

and if i kill that single xulrunner process, guess what? it killed all three of my -individual- Prism apps … same behavior as if i launched multiple browser windows.

granted, the memory footprint is small, but i can achieve that with Opera or K-Meleon.

Prism looks good for a start …
But i think ideally, you should not have to install anything on a desktop other than a browser, and which should be OS neutral.
After all a webapp should be as portable and fluid as the web itself.

[...] Meebo affiche donc ses ambitions et devance de loin, je trouve, Ebuddy dans cette course qui vise à faire aussi bien que nos chères applications installées en local. Maintenant, imaginez Meebo dans Prism (Pour ceux qui auraient loupé l’info, c’est ici) par exemple et cela pourrait presque remplacer votre messagerie habituelle. Bon d’accord, de mon côté, je préfère encore garder une messagerie instantanée comme Adium d’installé, mais je me mettais à la place de ceux qui utilisent encore le client MSN Messenger (Vous savez, l’application lourde et moche qui vous créer d’énormes trous de sécurité: Attention Troll inside ). [...]

[...] En savoir plus [...]

Prism…

[...]Mozilla labs releases 'Prism'

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You should combine efforts with Plain Old Webserver ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3002 ). It already has a stable and popular API and extensive documentation ( http://davidkellogg.com/wiki/Main_Page ).

[...] Läs mer om Prism på bloggen Mozilla Labs… [...]

[...] Come precedentemente annunciato Mozilla è alle prese per costruire delle applicazioni che abbiano l’obiettivo di migliorare l’interazione con la sempre più vasta gamma di applicazioni basate sul web. “Mozilla Labs” ha comunicato di essere al lavoro su Prism, tecnologia che renderà ancora più sfumata la linea di confine tra applicazioni desktop e web. Leggi tutto … [...]

[...] Alors autant sa voir ce que c’est que Prism. Publié par la Fondation Mozilla la semaine dernière, c’est la dernière et nouvelle version du projet WebRunner. [...]

We have a full blown web-application that sits atop Google-Maps – TrackHawk [ http://www.trackhawk.com ]. The Google component is minimal with a static map that could be cached. How will prism handle the requirements imposed by Google to run this application off-line?

Very much looking forward to the potential opportunities that Prism will unleash.

Thanks, BA.

[...] I recently mentioned Prism in a prior entry and how it was an intriguing business model. What I didn’t realize is how widespread a movement it seems to be, as suggested in this Knowledge@Wharton article. A brief blurb: It’s been a busy few weeks for the big technology companies. On October 1, Adobe Systems announced an agreement to buy Virtual Ubiquity, a company that has created a web-based word processor built on Adobe’s next generation software development platform. One day earlier, Microsoft outlined its plans for Microsoft Office Live Workspace, a service that will combine Microsoft Office and web capabilitiesso that documents can be shared online. Recently,Google introduced a technology called “Gears” that allows developers to create web applications that can also work offline. The common thread between the recent moves of these technology titans: Each company is placing a bet on a new vision of software’s future, one which combines the features of web-based applications with desktop software to create a hybrid model that may offer the best of both worlds. [...]

Definitely better as a plug-in/add-on. I felt naked without my mouse gestures. And I missed tabs too. A few times I hit CTRL-T before I realized I wasn’t in Firefox.

It just felt weird. I think I wasn’t browsing the right websites using it.

[...] La primera es Prism que le permite a cualquier usuario Windows (por ahora) crear aplicaciones para el escritorio, a partir de sitios web. [...]

Awesome work. The days of web browser enablers are over.
I’m sure in next update most of the bugs will be weeded out.

Is there anyway I can access netvibes in this app ?

[...] I guess all the big wheels these days are into the new RIA desktop deal with Adobe Air, JavaFX, and Mozilla’s Prism.  I definitly see the perspective they’re trying to achieve, but it seems to me none of them are there yet.  The concept is to bring the web to the desktop more or less, and all three have a different approach to it.  Air is allowing flex or regurlar html, css, js, where javascript acts more like a server side language.  JavaFX is more or less still Java.  Prism appears to be just an embedded browser. [...]

[...] Prism – Run web apps on your desktop link [...]

[...] Firefox’un geliştiricisi olan Mozilla laboratuvarları web uygulamalarının masaüstünde çalışmasını sağlayacak bir teknoloji geliştirdi. Açık kaynak olan bu teknolojinin adı Prism. Prism’in ana fikri örneğin facebook veya gmail gibi web uygulamalarını işletim sistemine ait uygulamalar menüsünden seçerek çalıştırabilecek olmamız. Böylece ayrı kulvarlarda koşan masaüstü ve web uygulamaları arasındaki bağ da giderek kuvvetlenecek. Aslında bu haber bize web&masaüstü hibrit teknolojileri için güzel bir ipucu veriyor. [...]

[...] Bien souvent on se réjouit de pouvoir profiter de services tel Gmail ou Facebook mais certain puriste du pixel essaye de plus en plus à optimiser leur ecran. J’ai commencé par changer mon style Firefox par un autre plus minimaliste, mais cela ne me suffis guère, alors j’use du raccourci F11, mais là encore j’aurais aimé mieux. Aussi, pour combler “les jamais content” comme moi, Firefox nous a offert Prism, un logiciel à installer qui nous permet de transformer une URL en application afin [...]

[...] I’ve been keeping my eyes and ears open lately about Mozilla labs new project called Prism. I especially made note when the waters were stirred when Mike Chambers said “somehow it is inherently good when Mozilla does it, and inherently evil when Adobe does it.” [...]

[...] Download and use Prism, of the many advantages of Prism one of them is the ability to place dedicated shortcuts to urls you use often. The good part is that while you can fully use the service in question, Gmail for example, there is little scope to browse to unsafe places since the url is fixed. [...]

[...] Distraction free browsers: WebRunner ó Prism Publicado el Noviembre 2, 2007 por xkortazar Hoy me voy a centrar sobre un nuevo tipo de aplicaciones que algunos llaman “distraction free browsers“, un ejemplo de ello es Prism (antes WebRunner) [...]

That’s great! (Obviously! But let me be a little passionate!)
There are many things – Flex, JavaFX and Silverlight – that has dirty technology bindings! There are always hidden fees and dirty ways t achieve it – OK! Silverlight is available on any platform; but if you want to develop in it, you need Visual studio and windows and so on.
“IF” there be a right approach in designing and distributing this thing, it would help and may affect web-developing things.
Best Regards

[...] For this reason, Mozilla Labs announced yesterday that it will be launching new experiments that aim to seal the gap between the desktop and web apps" as the line between traditional desktop and new web applications continues to blur." [...]

[...] Like the recently launched OpenSocial from Google, which brings web applications into socially interactive among each other, Prism of Mozilla Labs cuts the line between traditional desktop applications with web applications. [...]

Prism is just the GUI container I have been looking for. I felt that HTA was too restrictive and a IE only solution. If your migrating old DOS applications to GUI, this is a great client as it allows your application to control the flow and not let the user get too creative like they do in a normal browser.

How is the ’sidebar’ navigation frame suppose to work? I have search till my fingers are bloody and nothing about this feature. I assume there is some config file that defines this feature.

There are binary files in the ZIP based application bundles and I wonder how they are created. (by Prism ?)

John

Hi all,

please excuse a long post: I work as a PHP/JS programmer building apps on FF2 (and IE – see later). From my POV there are 3 different topics involved in the answers before, which need to be clearly seperated. I’ll try so:

1.) Prism vs. Silverlight vs. AIR vs WtH:
To be honest, I dimply do not give a d. about that.
The power of web-apps is to run on close to any device, OS etc. There is extensive know-how about that, most of the gaps between web-apps and classical desktop apps are already closed.
I still do not believe, that Prism, AIR and Silverlight are compareable enough to make this discussion a constructive one.

2.) “Whats the buzz”:
While Prism is not a revolution on the technical side of things, from the POV of a programmer, it’s of a giant value: We are now able to create a desktop icon for our STUPID users, that will call our webapp correctly, even if they messed up their “normal” browser settings: An URL link on the desktop will launch in IE, if the user opened IE only once and just clicked yes.
Please keep in mind, that readers of this article tend to be technically more experienced than typical users, so a “so what” for many of us, might be a “Wow” (Pun indended) for others.

3.) Gecko/Firefox/XUL bugs/limitations, that naturally appear in Prims as well:
For us, this is the most serious:
a) There is a heavy bug in [Gecko|FF|XUL]{I_do_no_know_which} that makes the cursor disappear from input fields, if another input field was made invisible while having the focus (which is bound to happen with any cute UI). Sometimes you can see the cursor blinking at the position the now invisible input field occupied (if object.style.visibility=’hidden’ + some zIndex stuff was used and not object.style.display=’none’ to hide it) the only workaround is to keep track of the visibility of EVERY single input field (as opposed to div containing many input fields) and if one becomes invisible set the focus to something, that does not change visibility before doing the actual switching (which must async, as doing the focus change and the visibility switching inside the same event won’t solve the problem).
I already posted a bug about this, but – as I can easily understand – there was not yet any action on it.
Prism seems to trigger this for GMail, which is a good thing for us, as it might help assigning this annoying bug a higher priority – yes, I am an egoist, no I do not have the C skills to fix it myself, else I would already have done so.
If this helps, I can also provide sample JS code to show the problem.

b) Startup time/Memory consumption/etc.
Yes, these issues exist. While this might be annoying, (at the time of writing, FF uses 210.864K, Thunderbird 66.724), I do not consider it that much of a problem.
To add a bit of fuel to the flame war of 1.): Let’s see, what a silverlight (or better: 11 parallell of them) app doing the same thing as running in my FF windows and tabs right now will consume – and if they will allow my machine to stay mine, not some russian spammer’s droid ;-)

Best regards, Eugen

[...] Site officiel de Prisme by Mozilla Télécharger Prisme : Windows | Mac OS X | Linux [...]

[...] We’re happy to announce the Prism prototype is now available for Mac and Linux! We’re also releasing an updated version for Windows that resolves some of the issues users have encountered. [...]

Mike Chambers is only comming here to evangelize AIR, and that sucks a lot. Mike, we know you good so is Adobe, but here is not an AIR forum, only one post and your freakout (that post on your blog) would be ok…but all this crap…. get lost;

BTW, Cheers for the PRISM and hope to have it with all features that Chirag explained, also, as a FF extension.
Cant wait to have it like this on my hands. Thanks thanks thanks, firefox is really the future of the web!

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism (tags: mozilla prism firefox web desktop applications software) [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism Allows you to create a web page as a separate application. Only for windows now. (tags: mozilla prism air) [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog – Prism [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog – Prism [...]

[...] Looks like WebRunner grew up a little in the past week. Version 0.8 is now known as Mozilla Prism. Now all you need to do is run Prism and set up your own “web apps” on your desktop, start menu, or quick launch bar. [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs [...]

[...] read more [...]

Looking neat. Might use it.

[...] Tan sólo hay que echar un vistazo al proyecto PRISM de la Fundación Mozilla para darse cuenta de ello. Básicamente están creando un metasistema operativo que funciona con un navegador sobre cualquier plataforma que tenga instalada el usuario. Los límites de la Web y de las aplicaciones desktop tienden a desaparecer. [...]

[...] A Mozilla Prism a legjobb találmány a böngésző óta, komolyan. http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ « előző | karma — 2007. 11. 04. 23:19 [...]

[...] With web apps moving away from the browser, it might even be practical to use these JavaScript intensive interfaces soon. For now, though, if you’re looking for interaction, Flash is probably the way to go. [...]

[...] Hace muy poco apareció una de las nuevas chucherías de Mozilla: Prism, una interfaz multiplataforma para ejecutar aplicaciones web sin un navegador y sin depender del sistema operativo. Como se encuentra en periodo de pruebas, quisimos probarla, pero claro, no estaba para Linux… hasta ahora. [...]

[...] De plus en plus d’applications sont accessibles directement depuis votre navigateur, et ce n’est que le début. Ayant compris cela, la fondation Mozilla a remarqué que l’interface d’un navigateur n’était alors pas adaptée à l’utilisation de ses applications, les rendant bien plus compliquer. Par exemple, nous n’avons pas besoin de la barre d’adresse, des boutons précédente/suivante et autres favoris pendant que nous sommes en train de consulter nos mails dans Gmail. Souhaitant améliorer l’expérience utilisateur de ses applications web, Mozilla a lancé un projet nommé Prism. C’est une sorte de navigateur, qui va vous permettre d’accéder à vos applications Web favorites comme si elles étaient des applications “bureau” traditionnelles, c’est-à-dire sans les boutons et autres contrôles inutiles de votre navigateur Internet. [...]

[...] http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism [...]

[...] Adobe AIR, like Google Gears  or PRISM project from Mozilla is cross-platform, its write-once-run-anywhere technology unlike JAVA which is slow and resource heavy or . NET which is MSFT specific [...]

Hi Im having a bug, unable to see the typing cursor inside gmails compose emails site, can see it in the subject and to: section but not in the main body of the email, anyone has any clues ty.

[...] Acabamos de fazer alguns testes e tudo indica que iremos utilizar o Mozzila Prism para instalar as aplicações nos nossos clientes. O Mozzila Prism faz com que as aplicações online pareçam aplicações off-line. Com isto achoque dá pra o usuário focar apenas no programa já que ele fica com menos cara de browser cheio de distrações… [...]

[...] 2007 Posted by Peter in Security, quote. Tags: development, firewall, Security, web application trackback Mozilla and Adobe are both developing (separately) tools to allow web applications to run on thedesktop (ie no visble browser). More can be found at the Mozilla Prism announcement and Mike Downy’s article critiquing it from the perspective of Adobe AIR. [...]

Proxy settings example

// sspitzer: change this back to “news” when we get to beta.
// for now, set this to news.mozilla.org because you can only
// post to the server specified by this pref.
pref(”network.hosts.nntp_server”, “news.mozilla.org”);

pref(”permissions.default.image”, 1); // 1-Accept, 2-Deny, 3-dontAcceptForeign
pref(”network.proxy.type”, 1);
pref(”network.proxy.ftp”, “10.2.2.2″);
pref(”network.proxy.ftp_port”, 80);
pref(”network.proxy.gopher”, “”);
pref(”network.proxy.gopher_port”, 0);
pref(”network.proxy.http”, “10.2.2.2″);
pref(”network.proxy.http_port”, 80);
pref(”network.proxy.ssl”, “10.2.2.2″);
pref(”network.proxy.ssl_port”, 80);
pref(”network.proxy.socks”, “10.2.2.2″);
pref(”network.proxy.socks_port”, 80);
pref(”network.proxy.socks_version”, 5);
pref(”network.proxy.socks_remote_dns”, false);

[...] I first heard of Prism, I thought, “Why?” I already have Firefox. Just open a tab. But, with Prism, I can [...]

[...] alors que la Mozilla fondation interviens et nous propose : Prism, un programme qui permet d’accèder a ses services sans passer par le [...]

A very nice and handy thing – even if you just wants to open heise or google without starting a 30 ton fat browser ;)

Things which are like Opera Desktop things or Yahoo konfabulator would be great :)
(stay always on top remove bars etc)

You want a own desktop Clock ? just add some lines javascript and a backgrund picture and you are done !

Thanks for the nice work
Thomas

Mozilla Prism — Web-Applikationen auf den Windows, Linux und Mac OSX Desktop…

Mozilla nimmt mit Prism die Ansätze von Adobe AIR und Microsoft Silverlight ins Fadenkreuz: statt proprietären Technologien setzt Mozilla jedoch auf Webstandards. Prism, bisher als Webrunner bekannt, ……

pretty nice one, i was just waiting for that linux-version! thank you guys

I think this is a perfect solution for those who do not know alot about computers. Such as myself.
I use as many portable applications as I can. I use FF portable AND Thunderbird portable exclusively.
Still, both of these aps must be run twice for the host pc to display and use the ext’s and addons that I personally prefer. This gives rise to files left behind on host pc’s making them portable but crippled until host saves your preferences.
Would prism change this or not. If not, then I rather see no future to this other than saying one can. Even a thinstall version of an application must leave a folder behind on local pc. I suppose if when an ap was opened it created necessary folders, and then when closed it deleted them it would be TRULY portable. There are none that I know of worth mentioning here
?
I suppose I will wait and see what comes of this but rather doubt the outcome.

I was looking for an application like Prism, for a long time!

Thanx

[...] そこで、１１月２日にMozilla LabsからリリースされたLinux版のPrismを使ってみることにしました。 [...]

[...] too (and Mac) Last updated: November 5th, 2007  [ Printer Friendly Version ] The Mozilla Prism project, which seeks to more closely integrate desktop and web applications, made its first release [...]

[...] Meet Prism. [...]

[...] Entrada en el weblog de Mozilla sobre Prism [...]

Not that cool yet. I think you in fact do need to have the developers target this thing. Most of the web is just document delivery. There are very few ‘web apps’ out there (in comparison). You should allow the developer (if they want) to be able to target specific features in Prism, like perhaps a File Menu? That way if they take the time they get added goodies. They are developers after all, if they developed their app properly, all the information is just sitting in the cloud and can be pulled down and displayed in any way they want. So I don’t see a big issue with tailoring to Prism, AIR, or Silverlight. As long as your getting a very good usability ratio. In your case that’s making the app look more like a desktop app and not just a browser with limited navigation.

The File Menu could be as easy as loading in an XML file describing all the menus and options with attributes pointing to new pages, javascript, or whatever else. That’s just a lame example I think with some real thought you could do something amazing.

Anyways, I do realize it’s v 0.8 but I hope to see something more than just navigation-less browser windows.

I don’t understand they hype. I read about this on my mobile and thought wow, that’s what we need. but after arriving in the office, i was deeply disappointed. so the innovation here is… a browser without any controls? you mean like that one found on every hello world programming example? check out how to embed mozilla in gtk, ie in visual basic, etc etc. this is done in few lines of code. so please do tell me, where is the innovation? every kid in 1998 was able to do prism by himself in visual basic.

I would have expected easy to use api for offline apps with acces to a local db, distributable on a stick, cd, download, etc… but not this.

i suggest when you have these things you rename the application to something else than prism so it can catch my and many other disappointed peoples interest again.

[...] และก็โดน Hack เรียบร้อยแล้วใน 24 ชม., Mozilla Prism มอซิลลา พริซึม สดๆร้อนๆ [...]

[...] newest entry in this Web -> Desktop continuum is Mozilla Prism. It seem to have a ton of potential as it lets you convert a web app to the desktop, as in GMail, [...]

[...] Labs has released Prism, an application that lets you split web applications (e.g. Gmail, Twitter, Facebook) out of Firefox [...]

[...] erste Version ist bei den Mozilla Labs [...]

to some, this may not be much better than a shortcut on the desktop (i’ve seen comments to that effect).

however, for me i neatly solves a problem i’ve been trying to fix. since prism strips away all the trappings of the web browser, people don’t think of themselves as being on the web. it is simply an application. also, removing all the bars and such focusses the user on what they are doing and will reduce distraction.

also, you don’t need firefox loaded on your computer for it to work.

i did find that if there is a problem with the security certificate on your website, it can’t continue.

Wow! What a great future. I think this is what we all miss: Taking the web to our desktop.

[...] relativa al programma che si vuole avviare. In un prossimo futuro Mozilla dovrebbe integrare Prism direttamente all’interno di Firefox, per consentire con pochi click del mouse di [...]

>so please do tell me, where is the innovation?

To answer your question:

1) Prism is about enabling end users to integrate web applications into their desktop environment, the types of users who obviously are not going to start programing their own custom apps (embed mozilla in gtk, ie in visual basic, etc etc).

2) Open source projects need to be announced before they are finished to attract contributers to the project. While I personally think prism in it’s current form is an important step toward the online desktop, there are a lot of different directions the project will take in the future. I have a post up here if you are curious: http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/10/29/prism-brainstorming/

[...] مايكروسوف عن SilverLight، وأيضا لا ننسى Mozilla وإعلانها عن Prism، السؤال هنا هل هذا ما ستكون عليه التطبيقات [...]

I just wrote an app, while ready this page, that runs on Windows, OS X and Linux that does the same thing but uses 25% of the memory Firefox uses.

I may actually use it (mine) instead of a browser to run all my web-based apps I created at work. Thanks for the idea!

[...] Mozilla.org tut sich so einiges und aus WebRunner wurde Prism. Welches jetzt auch für den Mac zur Verfügung steht und eigentlich auch schon gar nicht [...]

[...] So I logged into gmail today an look what I found. Maybe that explains why gmail runs so much better in prism. [...]

Prism is great, however it doesn’t let me write messages in the new version of Gmail.

A problem is that Prism doesn’t remember the codes of GMAIL…
Does anybody know if i can change an icon?

FYI – shortcuts on windows don’t work. Try as I might it won’t create them, just opens vbs code in notepad. Webrunner was easier to understand out of the box, but i’ll go learn on the forums.

[...] hat eine schicke Lösung in der Pipeline: Mit Prism wird es möglich, webbasierte Anwendungen mit und ohne Ajax wie Client-Software [...]

[...] Am vazut ca Adina zicea ceva de Mozilla Labs. Deci mai bine check this out: Prism [...]

[...] Homepage: http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

This seems like a ton of work, to create chromeless windows, but it will allow IT depts. to preinstall links, and reduce support incidents.

As far as distributing apps, Java Web Start, works very well. For anyone who knows Java, which is now the world’s most popular programming language, it only takes a few minutes to learn how to write a .jnlp and link to it.

[...] nuove tecnologie/prodotti (Adobe Air) e la possibilità di portarle offline (vedi Google Gears e Mozilla Prism) si tende a parlare di desktop [...]

[...] задача Prism – интеграция веб-приложений в окружение рабочего [...]

Does Prism work on Windows Vista? Whenever I attempt to start it, nothing happens.

Prism by Mozilla Seems to be excellent!!!!!!!

Web Sites run much better in Prism.

I think this is a good idea for more and more people need both dekstop and web apps that is seamlessy work in the same time. Awesome!

erste Version ist bei den Mozilla Labs

[...] Linux ve Mac için Prism seçeneklerini duyurmuş. Daha yeni Mozilla Labs Blog’unu okurken karşılaştım. Aslına [...]

[...] faire aussi bien que nos chères applications installées en local. Maintenant, imaginez Meebo dans Prism, cela pourrait presque remplacer votre messagerie habituelle. Bref tout çà, pour montrer [...]

[...] Alles weitere ist IMO selbsterklärend, daher nur der Link: Web-Anwendungen auf dem Desktop bzw. direkt zum Prism-Mozilla-Projekt. [...]

Does PRISM depend on a working installation of firefox / mozilla? Or are all dependencies included?
Regards,
Jacob

[...] straw, the real hope lies in innovative expansion of the browser-to-user link (as exemplified by Mozilla Prism which e.g. lets Web apps work much more like desktop ones) and in secure mashup technologies (like [...]

The only one thing needed for this software is a system tray option.

[...] servicios de terceros sin fiabilidad (no, Google no da ninguna fiabilidad), es curioso que alguien como Mozilla decida lanzar Prism, un programa que permite convertir sitios web en programas de escritorio, de forma que no haga [...]

This would be an ideal platform for running a couple of (self-made) web-based applications – were it not for the lack of Administrator rights at work that prevents me from installing it…

Please, make this a portable app! Thanks.

This is Fantastic, I have been wanting a way to access my most frequently used google apps without having to actually open a browser. Nice work guys!!!!

[...] acaba de renombrar su proyecto WebRunner como Mozilla Prism, un experimento que busca traer las aplicaciones web al escritorio y lo hace de una forma mucho [...]

[...] Prism is a cross-platform application that lets you integrate web applications with your desktop. Prism now provides a cross-platform way to integrate the web platform with the desktop environment, and developers don’t have to lift a finger to desktop-enable their web applications, while users have the choice to use their favorite web apps in their browser, on their desktop of choice, or in both places. [...]

[...] Prism» haben die Mozilla Labs, einen grossen Schritt, in die Zukunft des Webs, unternommen. Das Besondere [...]

[...] news for this Friday night nerd porn installment.  Mozilla Prism is available for Linux, Mac, and Windows. I see prism as Firefox without toolbars, or some toolbars [...]

[...] ahora estoy escribiendo directamente via Prism asi que tambien lo dejo para después y hablar un [...]

If you can’t find any reason to use Prism, try searcjing for Xcerion on Google.

Prism + Xcerion = Eehm… Happyness? Where’s that lexicon?

[...] the folk at Mozilla Labs released an interesting piece of software called Prism. The goal of Prism is to bring Web applications to the desktop. Last week, I learned that a [...]

Suggestions

- Option to let the user type a password to close the window.
- Option to block winkey, alt-tab, alt+F4 etc. to prevent leaving the app
- True fullscreen as mentioned above.

In short, a kiosk browser mode.

Another suggestion:

- Download the favicon is it exists, and use it as the shortcut icon.

[...] Mozilla Prism és una nova aplicació de Mozilla que bàsicament el que fa és convertir en aplicacions les pàgines web fent servir XUL com a eina per fer aquest tipus de “refracció”. [...]

I think it would also be good if Mozilla developed an InstallBuilder which would enable site owners to develop custom installers which integrate into Prism.

Just like we have installers for the Windows OS, Linux, etc., I believe it would be good to have them for Prism.

Doing this will make it easier to distribute web apps as desktop apps, eliminating the need for the user to specifically enter the urls and other info.

So the user goes to the site and downloads the prism installer for that particular web site or installs it straight from the web site without file downloads.

Let’s make this as easy as bookmarking.

[...] Prism Mozilla的新玩意(新名字老玩意),可以把web应用做成桌面shortcut(”桌面化”–新词).如果你经常用诸如gmail,googledoc,googlereader,googleearth,flickr,youtube或其他一些web应用….可以试试 [...]

[...] les applications Web tendent à s’affranchir du navigateur. C’est tout le sens de Prism, sorti des laboratoires de la fondation Mozilla. Ce projet permet de transformer une application [...]

Its looks promising…but i still could finds bugs in there!

[...] unendo i vantaggi di entrambe le piattaforme in una sola soluzione. Il nome di questo progetto è Mozilla Prism e consiste in un browser ridotto all’osso, privo di barre, di strumenti e di bottoni, [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism: http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] open source secondo me davvero molto comoda per chi usa tantissimo il Web e i suoi servizi. Prism è un’applicazione che permette di utilizzare applicazioni Web senza interfacciarsi con il [...]

[...] Веб-приложения уже давно обосновались в браузерах многих из нас. А, собственно, почему в браузерах? Почему не выделить каждому из них своё окно, замаскированное под окно обычного приложения, раз уж вся разница состоит только в необходимости наличия надежного интернет-канала? Мозилловцы взяли Webrunner – проект с непонятной судьбой – подкрутили здесь, подпаяли там и выдали на-гора Prism. [...]

the windows version is still not working. I’m using Windows xp sp2 and when I try to install it gives lot files as missing and most of them are dll files and it comes up only if I select XUL runner runtime.

Please look into it…thank you!

[...] Prism – Åbn webapplikationer som programmer [...]

[...] http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

I am surprised at the number of “so-what” comments referring to opening their email with PRISM. Obviously they have never had to develop or deploy a web app. I can tell you this is exactly what is needed. I spent some time trying to mimic a kiosk mode in a less than full screen mode and have found all the newer versions of browsers cripple this for security reasons so PRISM is spot on.

We can’t get it soon enough and it could well convince some of our clients who currently use IE to swap for the user experience.

[...] νέα προσπάθεια της Mozilla, που ακούει στο όνομα “Prism”, προσπαθεί να ενσωματώσει τις web applications στο Desktop, [...]

[...] offered on the internet for free usually, so almost all the time we have a browser window opened. Prism may answer our call of having a small and specialized browser client. It can create shortcuts that [...]

This is great. I had to run a small set of computers accessing a library catalogue. I used to use Netscape 4 in superkiosk mode, and now use Firefox with R-kiosk, but restricting access to all the unwanted functions was hard work. Its far more sensible to have a program that doesn’t include them all. Prism seems to do 90% of what I want straight out of the box.

One request, can you put a superkiosk mode in? A frameless full screen window, no title bar, just the app you want. If you are only running one program on a machine, you don’t need to advertise that its running Windows with a start bar, and if you don’t want users to close the program, don’t give them an X to click!

Look forward to seeing version 1.0

[...] aber für ein wenig musikalische Berieselung z.B. im Büro reicht songza allemal. Dank Mozillas Prism läuft songza jetzt bei mir als eigene Anwendung auf dem Desktop. Sehr [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism Prism ermöglicht die Verlagerung von Web-Applikationen aus dem Browserfenster auf den Desktop. Genauer heißt es, dass Online-Dienste, die bisher im Browser geladen werden mussten, nun über eine Desktop-Verknüpfung aufgerufen werden und in einem eigenen Fenster auf Desktop laufen können. Alternative. [...]

[...] Mozilla PrismAn application that lets you split web applications (e.g. Gmail, Twitter, Facebook) out of Firefox and run them directly on your desktop. Windows only. Bubbles offers a more flexible alternative. [...]

[...] Mozilla PrismAn application that lets you split web applications (e.g. Gmail, Twitter, Facebook) out of Firefox and run them directly on your desktop. Windows only. Bubbles offers a more flexible alternative. [...]

[...] La nova joguina de Mozilla per fi ha estat alliberada per a GNU/Linux (sí, per a MAC també!), per parlar clar, es tracte del navegador de Mozilla (utilitzen el mateix motor), però amb menor consum de recursos, això va de perles per aquells que utilitzem certes aplicacions web, que fa que tinguem tot el dia el Mozilla Firefox enxufat. [...]

[...] Mozilla PrismAn application that lets you split web applications (e.g. Gmail, Twitter, Facebook) out of Firefox and run them directly on your desktop. Windows only. Bubbles offers a more flexible alternative. [...]

[...] lié à Internet ou au réseau interne. Fort de ce constat, quand j’ai entendu parler de Prism ou bien de Bubbles, je sais que ces “couches” logicielle naviguent sur le bon [...]

[...] well with WordPress. Of course, I’ve turned WriteToMyBlog into a pseudo desktop app using Prism [...]

[...] обычно все узнаю последним. Так и о начинании Mozilla — Mozilla prism тоже узнал только сейчас. Вкратце суть такова: [...]

I downloaded and installed the latest version of Prism either on my Windows XP laptop and on another computer with Windows Vista Home and I am having the same problem.
Soon after I add a “web application” I get this message:
Windows cannot open this file: shortcut.vbs
Windows needs to know what program… etc etc…

[...] Prism | Mozilla Labs Blog [...]

[...] URI（因為它的網址列是唯讀的），這樣夠精簡了吧！原本叫做 WebRunner 的 Prism，已經正式加入 Mozilla Labs 的專案項目。Prism（三稜鏡） [...]

[...] Prism und Google Mail Mozilla Prism alias Webrunner ist ein um seine Oberfläche beraubter Firefox-Browser. Die Idee hinter Mozilla [...]

I like use FireFox+F11 more then Prism….

[...] Massor av information om Mozilla Prism [...]

There should be some kind of support for most usefull firefox addons like Adblock Plus

[...] wird von einem Minimalisten-Browser namens Prism berichtet. Dieser “Browser” war mir bis dahin unbekannt, jedoch war ich immer an einem [...]

[...] Prism ermöglicht die Verlagerung von Web-Applikationen aus dem Browserfenster auf den Desktop. Genauer heißt es, dass Online-Dienste, die bisher im Browser geladen werden mussten, nun über eine Desktop-Verknüpfung aufgerufen werden und in einem eigenen Fenster auf Desktop laufen können. [...]

[...] anyone else seen Mozilla’s Prism? It’s pretty nifty. Right now I use it for Google Reader, GMail, and [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism [...]

[...] projet Mozilla pour offrir quelque chose de similaire mais pas tout à fait la même chose… Prism. Prism est en réalité un simple navigateur Web basé sur  XulRunner sauf qu’il ne [...]

[...] (Mozilla Labs) [...]

[...] Mozilla Foundation, developers of the Firefox browser, recently announced their new Prism software. Prism is one of several experimental projects being run by Mozilla that will explore how [...]

[...] Spots/Google Maps/Twitter kloon, leuke discussie met Robert Gaal over microformats en browser 2.0 (mozilla prism, operator en parakey), met Frank Schuil, Wouter Broekhof en Menno van der Sman over Wakoopa, [...]

[...] Prism – web to desktop rendering engine [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism 在桌面运行web应用的程序 (例如Gmail, Twitter, Facebook) [...]

Your kidding …. this is a non event.

[...] 没有地址栏，没有工具栏，更没有现在浏览器标配的多Tab浏览，更不用说插件了。这就是Mozilla Prism，一个很奇怪的家伙。通过这个家伙，我们可以放一个Gmail的快捷方式在我的桌面上，然后直接点击它，启动飞快，不用加载那些插件，因为我只是想看看邮件。 [...]

[...] http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] 没有地址栏，没有工具栏，更没有现在浏览器标配的多Tab浏览，更不用说插件了。这就是Mozilla Prism，一个很奇怪的家伙。通过这个家伙，我们可以放一个Gmail的快捷方式在我的桌面上，然后直接点击它，启动飞快，不用加载那些插件，因为我只是想看看邮件。 [...]

[...] top of that, Web applications are becoming browser-independent. Mozilla Foundation labs’ Prism is just an example. This project makes it possible to transform any Web application into a desktop [...]

[...] Prism on Mozilla Labs Artigo do Mozilla Labs que anuncia a incorporação oficial do então projeto Webranner a seu “repertório”. [...]

[...] Le 24 octobre 2007, le laboratoire Mozilla sortait Prism pour Windows. [...]

I confirm what naproxen said: the installer is corrupt. Setup cannot even start. Please verify the installer published for download.

gute arbeit leute, bin sehr zufrieden über prism. das zeigt mal wieder, wie gut programme der marke open source sind. komerzielle anwendungen hab da keine chance. meiner meinung wird es bald auch keine komerziellen programme mehr geben

I think a lot of people are missing the point here about Prism. Prism will allow you to do more than just ‘run a webpage in it’s own window, and have a link from the desktop’ – this is not really anything new. The beauty in Prism is that it will let me code an entire program (offline, online, or both) using XUL (Mozilla’s standards based interface language) and Javascript, and I won’t need the browser open in order to see it.

The difference between Prism and AIR is that whilst AIR requires flash, and a fair bit of nifty coding to make it talk to pre-existing databases etc, all of the interface design is done in an XML based language, so it is inherently more open than using Flash. Not only this, but I assume that Prism will also allow you to also use XPCOM objects, which will let you use system-specific functions (eg. zip/unzip a file, connect to a mail server etc) from your applications.

I think the real people who will see uses for Prism are people running database-driven businesses: a single interface can be built using standard UI components in XUL, which talks to their database using XML, which will run on any platform Prism is available (I’m sure some way of using it on your mobile phone will be available soon). This clearly has huge benefits for system administrators – not least because there is absolutely no legwork in upgrading everybody in the company simultaneously to the latest version of the database interface, update it in one location and whatever platform people are using it on, it will just work.

Another benefit over flex is that XUL already has many components built with handling large amounts of data quickly in mind, whereas the AIR/Flex components, while better than they once were, are still a long way off in the speed stakes.

Anybody who has already written an extension for firefox/thunderbird will be able to (with very little/no effort) be able to use it in Prism as a standalone application, one example is FireFTP – it would be hard to imagine this working under AIR, as to my knowledge it has no built in FTP support.

Although Prism is only in the early stages of development, I’m already very excited about the possibilities, and have wasted no time in brushing up my XUL programming!

Rufus

[...] 5、Mozilla Prism（棱镜） [...]

I’m already enjoying it. Great idea way to go Mozilla!

Now if only Prism could handle FF add-ons, both on a per-application and a general basis. I’ll elaborate.

I like my phpMyAdmin with ‘Resizable Form Fields’ and my Gmail with ‘Better Gmail’. Now ‘Better Gmail’ is useless with phpMyAdmin, but ‘Resizable Form Fields’ can be handy with my Gmail app. Still with me? ;)

I think it’s not hard to cook up a dozen more scenarios where this would come in handy.

[...] Mozilla arbeitet an einer Reihe von Projekten, die die Bedienbarkeit von Internet-Applikationen und Desktop Add-Ons mit Hilfe des Browser noch einfacher und intuitiver gestalten soll. Ein interessantes Produkt dieser Experimente ist „Prism“, über das auf Onlineanwendungen direkt über den Desktop zugegriffen werden kann. Über die jeweilige URL sucht man sich einen Online-Service seiner Wahl und erzeugt via Prism ein Desktop-Icon dazu. So kann man sich je nach Anwendung über das Wetter, den Börsenkurs, oder die letzten Mails informieren lassen. Bei Prisma handelt sich also quasi um einen unsichtbaren Internet-Navigator. Wenn man sich eine Anwendung ausgesucht hat, wird diese in einem neuen Fenster geöffnet. Mozilla arbeitet gerade daran, Prism bestmöglich in den hauseigenen Browser Firefox zu integrieren und es damit zur Stanradausstattung einer zukünftigen Version zu machen. Im Moment ist Prism noch in der Entwicklung, der interessierte User hat aber die Möglichkeit, hier einen Prototyp für Windows ausprobieren. [...]

I’ve just tried adding the .manifest file of an XUL program I’m building to the Prism chrome directory, and everything so far is working exactly as expected. Prism is more than just a way of adding a shortcut to the deskop for a web site you want to run in its own window, even as it stands at the moment, it’s a way for developers to quickly build entire programs that work either online or offline using technologies such as XML, XUL and Javascript, without having the browser controls present.

Rufus

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[...] launched Mac and Linux versions of Prism. What’s Prism (WebRunner) again? It’s a stripped down version of Firefox that essentially lets you load a single web page at a time. No tabs, no useful URL or navigation [...]

[...] is an overview of three major pieces of that trend: the $200 Walmart PC (which runs Linux!), Mozilla Prism, and Google [...]

Mozilla Prism…

Ik had er nog nooit van gehoord, maar het bestaat toch al even: Mozilla Prism.

Het idee is als volgt: Maak van een website een programma.
Dus ipv dat je in het vervolg Firefox opstart om naar bijvoorbeeld Gmail te gaan, kun je nu een Prism koppel…

[...] [mozilla Labs] Prism http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] on the desktop I’m a big fan of Mozilla applications and lately my attention has turned to Prism. It’s an incredibly simple idea which allows web applications to become first class citizens [...]

[...] Prism selbst bietet dagegen nur das Einbinden einer beliebigen Webanwendung wie Google-Mail, Google-Calendar oder Google-Maps an. Beim Einrichten einer Webanwendung mit Prism wird ein Shortcut zu dieser anleget. So kann man jederzeit schnell sein “Programm” aufrufen. Das Erinnert an eine einfache Web-Verknüpfung. [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism اين کار رو براي شما انجام ميده!!! بنياد موزيلا اخيرا بر روي سرويسي کار ميکنه که هدف اون دسترسي به امکانات اينترنت بدون استفاده از مرورگرهاست.اين پروژه Prism نام داره.Prism برنامه‌ايست که به کاربران اجازه ميده که سرويسهاي تحت وب رو به طور مستقيم از روي دسکتاپشون اجرا کنند! [...]

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[...] YUI, dojo, etc), and of trends such as AJAX on desktop apps (Adobe AIR, Slingshot, Silverlight, Prism [...]

[...] from mozilla labs Filed Under Interesting, Techlogs, Weblogs, Working [...]

I’m working on an application using Dojo, and we’re having some browser problems, so we’d like to use something like Prism. In fact, Prism looks perfect, but it has no full screen mode (required for our application). Do you know if someone’s working on it?
Thank you very much. Great plugin!

[...] answer this grievance, Mozilla launched project with code name = WebRunner which now changes to Mozill Prism. What is [...]

[...] projecte, anomenat Prism, està basat en WebRunner, un Navegador per a Espais Específics (Site Specific Browsers o SSB) [...]

[...] Mozilla labs Prism [...]

Hi there,

I have a Question: Prism does not know of MIME-Type “application/x-jinit-applet;version=1.3.1.22″, which is a Java-Runtime implemented for Oracle Internet Application Server, while Firefox does. Even if I re-install the Runtime, Prism won’t be aware of. Is it a fault within Prism or must the Java Runtime register itself with all available “Browsers”? I have also installed the Java Runtime from Sun and these Applets are loaded correctly into Prism.. I run Windows XP w/ SP2

Greets,

JW

[...] Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop. [From Mozilla Labs Blog » Blog Archive » Prism] [...]

[...] AIR is very similar to Mozilla’s Prism and Microsoft’s’ Silverlight. The former is probably the closest competitor, given that [...]

[...] web applications out of your browser and turn them into (essentially) self-contained applications. Prism (formerly, Webrunner) is a prototype application that lets users split web applications out of [...]

[...] busy as I am, I’ve still found time to play around with Mozilla’s Prism browser. I really shouldn’t call it a browser since it’s not intended for browsing the Web. The [...]

[...] Prism is aa stripped down version of Firefox with no tabs or URL bar. [...]

[...] A Web como plataforma: escalabilidade, vulnerabilidade e integração online/offline [...]

[...] seen a number of competing technologies come up in the last year namely Silverlight, Adobe AIR and Prism. In the future we will see a tighter integration between desktop applications and the web. I [...]

[...] com outras peças do quebra-cabeças que o Mozilla Labs está desenvolvendo, como o Joey ou o Prism, e começar a fechar o vão que existe entre desktop, web e [...]

i want a Zh-CN vision…

[...] is an overview of three major pieces of that trend: the $200 Walmart PC (which runs Linux!), Mozilla Prism, and Google [...]

[...] web apps on the desktop Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly [...]

Chirag’s response 17 was right on, for right now.
Some more thoughts:

“1. Seriously long load time.”
It’s way early; be patient.

“2. Once you’ve created a “webapp”, there seems to be no way to edit the settings other than editing the webapp.ini”
Ditto.

“5. Needs keyboard shortcut keys. If they are present, I can’t find them. Keyboard for full screen, minimize to tray, stay on top etc. would be great.”
How about Backspace/back (still possible on many “web apps”), Crtl-X/Cut, Ctrl-C/copy, Ctrl-V/paste?

6. Preferences absolutely must allow selection of a non-default browser.
At work, my default browser must be IE6 (long story, many reasons, don’t get me started).
Which means Prism opens links in IE6. Which is just … icky.

Very useful tool. But I think it should use independent cookies for separate applications. First of all because I found this tool useful for to use different services under different google’s accounts(and not only google’s) and every time I need do log out and relogin.

[...] clipped from: http://www.thinkgos.com  &nbsp; clipped from: http://www.appbeta.com  &nbsp; clipped from: labs.mozilla.com    [...]

[...] of their browser and run them directly on their desktop.” The site holds a lot more detail, here. If you are familiar with Webrunner, it is now this. Oversimplifying it, Prism gives you a web [...]

[...] browse Facebook under a different browser than your usual browser (this is a good time to try out Prism! Make sure it runs under a different profile!), and pray that Facebook doesn’t start tracking [...]

[...] Prism sur le blog du lab mozilla [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Prism [...]

[...] as some links to .webapps available for it (all of which I find are very relevant and usefull). Prism download Available Prism [...]

[...] Che figo che è Prism… ora anche per [...]

I finally found a good use for Prism. I use it to listen to Jango Internet Radio, now i can surf without having the tap open all the time. That’s cool!

[...] Mozilla Prism, Adobe AIR, Microsoft’s Silverlight, Dekoh en Sun’s JavaFX. De voorlopers van deze [...]

Awesome application, it has been very helpful
keep on coding =)

Genial Aplicación, ha sido de mucha ayuda =)
Sigan desarrollando

[…] web apps on the desktop Prism is an application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly […]
=> I simply think wed apps on the desktop Prims are links of a wed sites with their own icons that can directly run on desktop as desktop applications (based on firefox browser module).
I have a question: why don’t you develope firefox browser or have an add-on application (if it satisfies) that users can be easy to create a connection to their favourite wed sites as an icon of desktop application and run directly on desktop? (I think it’s the same as Prism.)

[...] story short with Prism I can run the BBC Radio Listen Again thing as a seperate application instead of a seperate browser [...]

Dows this support proxy settings. First I thought it will be exactly like firefox with an additional button!

Am I the only one who can’t run it ?

It seems that it isn’t able to resolve hosts, this could be linked to the fact i’m running it on a x64 Debian, but I have a little number of 32b apps that run fine.

Since it seems I might be an isolated case, I won’t whine :-)

Cheers !

JB
./.

[...] hat mit Prism eine Software vorgestellt, mit der sich Web-Anwendungen in Desktop-Programme umwandeln lassen. Der [...]

[...] giorno fa Mozilla ha lanciato una versione di Prism per Mac e Linux. Prism (WebRunner) è una versione di ‘fascia bassa’ di Firefox che essenzialmente permette di caricare solo una singola pagina web per volta, quindi [...]

[...] it seemed to me that Mozilla was not really serious about the Prism project because the installer was corrupted and even after alerting them for 3-4 times, they were not able [...]

In my case, I need to have multiple web applications open at one time. I need a CRM system, a word processor, an online database, and an email app, all open at the same time.

Prism would be a great way to run each of these apps, but Prism forces me to close one app before I can open another. Why can’t there be multiple instances of Prism open at the same time?

[...] like me and you live in web apps for mail, calendar, and office, you might want to give Prism a try. What this does is allow you to enter a URL and Prism creates a shortcut to the site on your [...]

[...] poi diamo uno sguardo a tecnologie come Adobe AIR, e Prism, che è stato presentato da Mozilla di recente, è facile ipotizzare nuovi scenari in cui il futuro [...]

[...] Prism is an covering that lets users separate scheme applications discover of their covering and separate them direct on their desktop. Prism lets users add their selection scheme apps to their screen environment. When invoked, these applications separate in their possess window. They are reachable with Control-Tab, Command-Tab, and Exposé, meet aforementioned screen apps. And users crapper ease admittance these aforementioned applications from some scheme covering when they are absent from their possess computers. [...]

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[...] Leer noticia [...]

[...] terceira noticia, � o desenvolvimento do Prism (antigo Webrunner), que tem o objetivo de trazer aplica��es WEB para o desktop, trazendo o melhor [...]

[...] prism is awesome; ephy should have done something like it ages ago. (Not actually integrated into ffox3 [...]

[...] Then press the OK button. Prism will create shortcuts to the application in the locations you specified and then start the application.source [...]

This is really great. Is it the end all and be all of web stuff? Probably not. But I’m a huge fan of apps that make my life easier. Till now, I didn’t bother using Google Calendar because at work I regularly check two different gmail accounts. Logging out of one and into another meant I was also logging out of my calendar. The thought of using IE to segregate the logins is distasteful at best. With Prism, my calendar stays logged in regardless of which email I’m using.

So simple, but so useful.

Great work.

[...] October 2007, Mozilla launched Prism, an experiment allowing developers to build and deploy desktop applications using the Mozilla [...]

Prism is too slow, its faster for me to launch firefox and open my apps there, sorry.

While it is good that browser chrome is excluded, as that is the whole point, there should be some way to navigate back and forwards. Why are the mouse navigation buttons, the navigation buttons on my Thinkpad keybaord and even the ALT + cursor key combo (that works in normal browsers) not work in this beta??

[...] No me asombra que Mozilla quiera implementar este modelo de trabajo después del lanzamiento de Prism. [...]

Does any one came across similar application for Mac OS X…

Fluid: Give your favorite webapps a home on your Mac OS X Desktop.

“Fluid is highly inspired by the excellent Prism (formerly WebRunner) project by Mozilla Labs.”

http://fluidapp.com/

[...] Desktop-web interface with Fluid December 12, 2007 Posted by CLibra in Apple, Code, Internet, Software, Web 2.0. trackback We all know about the ‘web as desktop’, and companies have brought your webapps to your desktop, with technologies such as Prism. [...]

[...] the first SSB bundle for Streamy. The Streamy bundle is meant to work only with WebRunner (now Prism) ’cause currently, WebRunner is the only SSB application that can be installed on Linux, Mac [...]

[...] di Fluid ammettono, il software è simile come idea, funzioni e scopo al nuovo progetto di Mozilla, Prism. Ma c’è una importante differenza fra i due: mentre il secondo utilizza come motore di [...]

[...] – Mozilla’s Prism [...]

[...] Prism is a project from the Mozilla Fundation. You can launch your web-based applications like a desktop application: with a separate window without any toolbar, with a double-clickable icon, and basically that’s all by the moment. [...]

384 comments on one page? Fail.

Oh my bad it’s worse. 551 text blurbs.

[...] get more info, check out the Mozilla Labs blog, where you can also download a beta version for Mac (there are [...]

Minimization to system tray is a very very desired feature.

[...] Prism is a technology from Mozilla Labs based on the earlier work on Webrunner. It allows websites, such as Gmail, to be run as their own applications, running outside of a normal Firefox window. This is useful as a basic platform for web developers who want to develop applications based on web technologies but do not want to simply run them as web pages in Firefox. (And, yes, I’m simplifying things here a bit but you can read up about it on the Mozilla Labs page or Alex Faaborg’s blog post on Prism as well.) [...]

[...] es la réplica independiente y basada en Webkit a la aplicación Prism de Mozilla. Prism es una aplicación basada en XULrunner (al igual que Firefox, Thunderbird y el resto de [...]

[...] Adobe有Air，而Mozilla推出了Prism。尽管表述有所不同，但两种平台其实做的是一件事情，也就是打破桌面软件（desktop app）和网络应用（web app）的界限，而现在的重点在于，把web app变成像桌面软件一样，让web app变得更强大。 现在的prism还很弱小，但是把gmail、twitter、meebo变成一个桌面软件还是能做到的。下面的图就是prism的操作界面，输入web app的网址，取个名字，选择是否保存地址栏和导航栏，选择建立快捷方式（shortcut）的位置，点击OK就完成了。 [...]

[...] Sem-categoria jedsonguedes 2:21 pm A Fundação Mozilla (desenvolvedora do navegador Firefox), lançou um programa para integrar aplicativos web com a área de trabalho do Windows. Batizado de Prism, o software pode habilitar, por exemplo, o Gmail ou o Google Reader direto no desktop. A novidade foi anunciada nesta semana no blog do Mozilla Labs. [...]

[...] Prism is basically a version of Firefox with no address bar, no icons, no bookmarks, nothing. It’s just a browser that loads one pre-defined bookmark at a time. It sounds a little weird, but it’s really useful. [...]

[...] about it at Mozilla Labs You can also try it [...]

[...] week I came across two projects that made me very excited. First I discovered Mozilla’s Prism and a few days later Fluid. For more coverage about Fluid, visit Techcruch. Both these applications [...]

[...] site-specific browser generators like Todd Ditchendorf’s Fluid and Prism coming out, I think we’re additionally moving much more quickly towards local desktop integration [...]

[...] Prism，原名 WebRunner，是 Mozilla 实验室的一件作品，提供网络应用程序用户类似传统软件的桌面体验。随着 Web 2.0 [...]

[...] di Fluid ammettono, il software è simile come idea, funzioni e scopo al nuovo progetto di Mozilla, Prism. Ma c’è una importante differenza fra i due: mentre il secondo utilizza come motore di [...]

[...] Mozilla Labs Blog » Prism [...]

[...] 最新发布的 Prism 的确很酷，可以将特定的网站制作成独立的程序运行，这里引用一下 LinuxToy [...]

[...] XUL? WebRunner is now "Prism" > http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] expansion, qu’elles pourront être utilisées hors connexion Internet, que Mozilla propose Prism, un navigateur minimaliste, qui permet aussi d’avoir une icône sur le bureau pour lancer son [...]

[...] the transition from the desktop to the browser easier, even if some people could find it confusing. Mozilla Prism is a similar [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism? I mentioned it a couple of months ago and since then I’ve been using it pretty seriously. As [...]

[...] Web application that you use all the time”. This Google Gears API would mimic the behavior of Mozilla’s Prism and let you do a single click install which would provide a desktop shortcut. The way Dion [...]

[...] Mozilla’s Prism will be a huge part of the system. What online apps would you recommend for inclusion? [...]

[...] transpires that Mozilla are also now getting in on the act with Prism, which makes sense as Firefox itself is a kind of an HTML application. Go to Program FilesMozilla [...]

Mozilla Prism is perfect! thanks..

[...] http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ “Unlike Adobe AIR and Microsoft Silverlight, we’re not building a proprietary platform to replace [...]

Another solution for Opera:
http://my.opera.com/jegHegy/blog/opera-as-site-specific-browser

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[...] (formerly known as Webrunner), a site specific browser from Mozilla, allows publishers to distribute “webapp” [...]

Its freak as I wanted to create something like that.

The goal here I think is more to create a real differentiation between web APPLICATIONS and web documents or sites.

Now, imagine a company where applications be them web or desktop are bound to application design rules and web sites are bound to web site design rules. No more mix up and fuck up! This is just the best way to introduce management to web applications the way they should be introduced, as applications.

HI, I’ve been using this quite a bit and I like the concept. It really makes apps more like apps, but I think it needs some fine-tuning. A couple of my ideas/suggestions:

- Link urls directly to Prism. E.G. If I have facebook.com set up in Prism, and I have a link that takes me to Facebook, open it up in Prism.

- More intelligent target URL checking. A lot of the links I open up in GMail open up in Prism windows rather than my default browser because of the way GMail handles external links.

- I don’t know if this is a general issue, but shortcuts like the backspace (navigate back) key don’t work. This can make navigation very frustrating. Although I don’t want erroneous navigation buttons cluttering up my applications, I often still want their functionality.

Great tool though.

–
J.

[...] you can visit Mozilla Labs’ official site and get the download link in that [...]

[...] Windows/Linux Mozilla Lab’s Prism is pretty much the same deal, but a little less “native [...]

[...] Prism makes strides to simplify the process of harnessing this web application -> desktop application capability.  Once installed, opening Prism prompts for a web url and options to create Desktop, Quick Launch, or Start Menu icons.  This new version also gives the users options allowing them to display a location bar, status messages, and navigation keys, should they so desire. Mozilla Labs: Prism [...]

Uh yes but you cant just run any website through adobe air! It needs packaging and installing…..

Totally different thing in my book….

[...] Prism crea ventanas de un navegador web, totalmente independientes y sin posibilidad de navegar (escribiendo una URL, vamos) pero a las que les podemos asignar una página o aplicación web, ya sea de nuestra red social o nuestro sistema de correo web. De este modo podemos tener un ejecutable para abrir Gmail, por ejemplo, y que combinado con Google Gears, podría llegar a transformar aplicaciones como Gmail, Google Calendar o Google Reader en verdaderas aplicaciones de escritorio con soporte offline. Descarga | Mozilla Labs. [...]

[...] Prism crea ventanas de un navegador web, totalmente independientes y sin posibilidad de navegar (escribiendo una URL, vamos) pero a las que les podemos asignar una página o aplicación web, ya sea de nuestra red social o nuestro sistema de correo web. De este modo podemos tener un ejecutable para abrir Gmail, por ejemplo, y que combinado con Google Gears, podría llegar a transformar aplicaciones como Gmail, Google Calendar o Google Reader en verdaderas aplicaciones de escritorio con soporte offline. Descarga | Mozilla Labs. [...]

[...] Prism:  Nos permite abrir como ejecutables aplicaciones web, como Gmail, desde el navegador o desde nuestro desktop. [...]

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[...] the transition from the desktop to the browser easier, even if some people could find it confusing. Mozilla Prism is a similar [...]

[...] 2007 kwam Mozilla Labs met een nieuwe applicatie genaamd Prism. Met Prism wordt het mogelijk om web-applicaties te starten alsof het een daadwerkelijke desktop [...]

Eric…

Nice article….

I think this is an important undertaking, and I’m glad Mozilla is taking it on.

For many power users, using a single web browser to handle all of the web pages and applications you may be using at any one time can become a crippling user experience.

I would consider myself a Firefox power user – I use Firefox pretty much everywhere (if it was available for my blackberry, I’d have it everywhere). I use it on windows, I use it on Debian and Ubuntu, I use tabs like crazy (I regularly have 20-50 tabs open at any one time).

There are many users out there (like me) who don’t just use a web browser to surf the odd news site or blog, but use it as part of a regular toolkit of applications used on a daily basis, such as Gmail, Web Calendar (http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php), Craigslist, Youtube, Perlmonks, etc. for work and/or personal projects.

I also make use of Tab Groups (http://paranoid-androids.com/tabgroups/), and Session Manager (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2324) to make my work with Firefox and the web even more productive.

The real drawback the the way I currently work is that all this websites, all this web applications and tools are being run under one Firefox process which can grow to consume 300MB + of memory. When Firefox eventually crashes because of the the odd, poorly coded website, it will take ALL of my Tab Groups, Tabs, and Sessions with it. Then I have to start Firefox again (woun’t loose my place, because of Session Manager and Tab Groups) but it takes for every to log back into each and every web application that I was using.

Prisim, (from what I’ve been reading) aims to get rid of the possibility one browser session affecting another, and running each web application as a separate process.

Down the road, Prisim could even be transparent within Firefox, automatically loading each web site as a separate process in each tab, so that you could “pop” that tab out into a separate window, and close down the remaining Firefox browser without affecting the popped out session.

There are so many possibilities for Prisim, I’m really excited about it!

[...] Prism crea ventanas de un navegador web, totalmente independientes y sin posibilidad de navegar (escribiendo una URL) pero a las que les podemos asignar una página o aplicación web, ya sea de nuestra red social o nuestro sistema de correo web. De este modo podemos tener un ejecutable para abrir Gmail, por ejemplo, y que combinado con Google Gears, podría llegar a transformar aplicaciones como Gmail, Google Calendar o Google Reader en verdaderas aplicaciones de escritorio con soporte offline. Descarga | Mozilla Labs. [...]

Sadly, Mike Chambers , you fail miserable in your argumentation.

Adobe AIR is “build” around Flash, PDF and Flex. So lets see why AIR is “bad” and PRISM is good (as a standalone viewer by the Webkit team that creates some icon for you and starts webkits in a separate process is great as well, and even a web to desktop approach by Opera would still be “more open” and less proprietary even though Opera itself is closed source and proprietary. Why? Lets see!

1. Flash, while there are foss projects for viewing/using and creating, is proprietary technology by you, Adobe. You set the rules and not a standards committee.

It integrates REALLY BAD (spellchecking by the browser/os?, bookmarks? tabs? setting sound volume? security issues, just a view things named here) with the modern web and basically is only good for one purpose: video (and interactive video) – but even that is nothing good cause it seems Apple would not want to pay you a million $$$ bucks for your sincerely permission to use flash as a client player in their iPhone, maybe they just feared your omnipresence and decided to STICK WITH OPEN AND INDEPENDED standards (like their video standard they use)

Conclusion: you build AIR around flash, flash is owned by you, we would depend on YOU when using AIR. AIR = BAD. This is NOT the case with prism. If webkit will do it better one time, everyone can leave this then sinking ship and enter their deskit or however they will name it ;).

2. PDF

While PDF is partially an open ISO norm it is PRIMARILY a proprietary standard, if it is open or not does not matter cause you, Adobe, can make users of it: A.) pay for it B.) make them pay for liscense C.) hide new technological approaches within PDF.

Conclusion: PDF is nothing good, better stick for PDF-X ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/X ) (the ISO part of PDF) if you want EXACT printable documents, else skip PDF for anything else (for example use open document format or just html). AIR builds around PDF, PDF is not good, AIR is not good, simple as that :(.

3. FLEX

Flex is your wannabe .NET as far as I got it. But wait, the main interpreters for net are not available by anyone but you for real use. Lets take a look at .NET – wow there is MONO and other things – but you know the best? If you use prism, you do not have to let OTHERS decide which framework to take, you can take Ruby on Rails, or CakePHP, or Typo3, or whatever YOU PREFER.

Conclusion: Flex is not flexible, it encages you, and you will have to pay for it. AIR is build around Flex, Flex is bad, AIR is bad.

So Mike Chambers, while I understand your bias, cause you work at Adobe, and you like your Job more than your free thought, you should really see into something someone would call TRUTH.

Obvious Truth is, it seems, that PRISM is very elegant approach to let the average guy make the best out of WEB 2.0 (which might then, with full canvas, maybe canvas 3, svg, &shy-support, and so result into WEB 3.0, faster, better accessible, more intuitive web).

AIR is not, nor is Silverlight.

So, thanks for pointing it out right,
thanks for developing and delivering PRISM!

Linux version: http://people.mozilla.com/~mfinkle/prism/prism-0.8-linux.tar.bz2

No install needed, just unpack it to a dir (like /opt/)

Also – Flash does work on Prism for Linux. You’ll want to create a symlink to your Firefox plugins folder, i.e.: /opt/prism> ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/plugins plugins

The plugins dir isn’t there by default.

[...] En el lado negativo en general el que siguen siendo aplicaciones web 100% en el web no hay posibilidad de nada en el escritorio propiamente dicho es por eso que no quiero pensar en un mundo sin conexión a internet. Descarga / imágenes y más información  http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ [...]

[...] Synchronisatie tussen online en offline presence en werken.  The ubiquitous web komt nog dichterbij. Adobe AIR, Google Gears en  Microsoft Silverlight of zelfs Mozilla’s plannen. [...]

[...] de otro sitio web pueda colgar tu sesión específica.(tags: webapps web mac osx fluid)Mozilla Labs » Blog Archive » PrismSistema de creación de navegadores de aplicaciones web específicas, similar a Fluid, pero [...]

[...] les retours à la ligne dans l’éditeur de Wordpress, j’ai installé alors Prism pour avoir un accès exclusif à [...]

[...] to get around security concerns and a support for offline with some cluey caching to the likes of Prism or Fluidapp and you’ve something more than good [...]

[...] few people have already waxed lyrical about Site Specific Browsers and after trying out Prism for a few weeks I can say I really like the idea. Their are a couple of teething problems, both [...]

[...] things like iGoogle, Google Docs, an Internet radio portal, and Web-based email. Admittedly, I use Prism on my ThinkPad for those sorts of things but the way in which they’re set up on the Eee PC [...]

[...] a été l’occasion pour certains gros acteurs de s’illustrer (Adobe AIR, Google Gears, Mozilla Prism), par contre pas grand chose de neuf du côté de Java ou de Microsoft. Beaucoup [...]

[...] Synchronisatie tussen online en offline presence en werken. The ubiquitous web komt nog dichterbij. Adobe AIR, Google Gears en Microsoft Silverlight of zelfs Mozilla’s plannen. [...]

[...] Prism is a project by Mozilla to produce an application more geared towards web applications such as Google mail for example. It’s light doesn’t contain any buttons such as back/forward and allows you to concentrate on the application itself providing better desktop-web integration to the user. If you would like more detail regarding Prism see Mozilla Labs. [...]

Can’t wait for the Mac version…

[...] first is called Prism. This will allow web-application to live in traditional launch points on the [...]

[...] denn daran versuchen sich inzwischen mehrere Menschen, darunter auch die der Mozilla Labs, die mit Prism die Grundlage für sogenannte Site Specific Browsers schaffen will. Ein anderer Versuch ist Fluid, [...]

I do not understand why PRISM installation requires Administrator ’s right (i.e. Administrative privilege), whoile Firefox and Thunderbird do not.

I agree with posters (75 and 131) that PRISM should be made more portable. Like Firefox, one should be able to decuple/carry/distribute in a USB flash drive.

Someone expert, please clarify.

Thanks

pmbcan

[...] Prism (formerly, Webrunner) is a prototype application that lets users split web applications out of their browser and run them directly on their desktop.  What this really means in non-techie speak is that you can launch a scaled down web browser in its own process and use that to administrator your Joomla Site. Prism is a scaled down Firefox web browser that is designed for web applications – so already its more secure as its not Internet Explorer based :-) [...]

[...] away with all navigation-related amenities. That’s exactly what Mozilla Labs has done with Prism, and in its first incarnation Prism can be described simply as a Firefox browser devoid of all [...]

[...] Mozilla Prism [...]

[...] Read more about Prism Mozilla Labs » Blog Archive » Prism [...]

Needs more options such as defining window size, giving the window a proper title, EDIT menu.

[...] der webbasierende Mailclient oder ein Kalender – gibt es ja schon länger die Lösung prism, zu jener gesellt sich aber nun eine Alternative namens Fluid. Damit lässt sich eine [...]

[...] see any thing new in this kind of OS as this can be easily achieved in any OS with the help of Mozilla Prism (review of Mozilla Prism).  However, to be honest, the screenshot of the service is just [...]

[...] 实验了几次发现，要想正常打开Gmail，可以用Prism来完成。（Prism的发布还真是及时哪！点此下载。） [...]

[...] Fluid is a webkit-powered site specific browser generator like Mozilla’s Prism. [...]

[...] Prism on Mozilla Labs Artigo do Mozilla Labs que anuncia a incorporação oficial do então projeto Webranner a seu “repertório”. [...]

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[...] Mozilla Lab’s Prism project aims to get rid of the possibility that one web page can affect another by running each web application as a separate process. [...]

[...] Más | Prism en Mozilla Labs [...]

[...] aslında bunda da son derece haklı olduklarını, fark etmem ile birlikte; belki de Prism‘in buna çözüm olabileceğini düşünerek bir göz atmaya karar [...]

Is XForms support planned for Prism?
At this time, it does not work although I have the XForms plugin working fine in my Firefox.

This could be a nice pro for Prism and XForms!

Can you fix the icon next? At the moment the shortcut created is the prism icon and not the web-application icon.

I would like the right click action to be provided by the browser, e.g. save link as, and the find tool.

Hi,
I’v a feedback.
myself tried using accessing gmail, thru prism.
while giving print outs of emails for 3 pages. Only 1 comes remaining blanks.

Alex

[...] je viens seulement de découvrir un des nouveaux projets du laboratoire Mozilla, j’ai nommé Prism. Il s’agit en fait d’un outil qui permet l’utilisation d’un service web [...]

–Very Promising! –

Prism is about Web apps (AJAX, XUL etc) …NOT web sites….
and enabling:
A. greater (& easier) accessibility to these web apps – (ie. not HAVING TO treat them like web SITES intermingled amid 30 tabs in a browser)
B. extending capabilities of web apps to support desktop features (offline access, graphics) ….WHILE
C. retaining web PORTABILITY…and doing it in a
D.. open, STANDARDS-based way

– Plea —

PROJECT DEVELOPERS – PLEASE just don’t forget about these 3 REQUIRED attributes of a winning ‘framework’:

1. (User Application) PERFORMANCE/SPEED
2. Ease of Application install/use
3. (User Application) PERFORMANCE/SPEED

Keep up the great work!

(and yes..that’s my real last name :-)

[...] was struggling with this again the other day and happened to come across this post referring to the Mozilla Prism project, which allows you to run individual web apps (like GMail, GCal and RTM) in a separate [...]

[...] has a number of drawbacks, several of which are elegantly set forth in the blog post announcing the launch of Mozilla Prism: Personal computing is currently in a state of transition. While traditionally users have [...]

[...] 2007年10月份的时候Mozilla发布了一个小东西叫做Prism，在我感觉就是一个缩水的浏览器。没有地址栏等浏览器常见的工具栏…..在我发现这个用来作为 Google Gadgets for your webpage的容器倒是蛮好的，将Google Gadgets for your webpage 装在里面就得到了一个本地的小程序，但是依然要联网。比如我就是用了这个来实现了一个Google Talk，这个Google Talk是不用安装的（相当于以前的网页版的聊天工具） [...]

Hi,

today i installed Prism, primarily for measuring performance of WebApps we are currently working on. Even with disabled Firebug and stuff, FF seemed less reliable to evaluate performance than we hoped Prism might. All of our webapps make heavy use of the Dojo toolkit, but, sadly, most of them were broken inside Prism. To be precise, layouting widgets fail to calculate their positions and sizes correctly.

I cannot say exactly why – dojo correctly recognizes the gecko engine. I wonder if anyone else and/or the labs crew has made similar experiences.

Besides this, i’d consider Prism a valuable project and we are all looking forward to seeing it evolve!

Regards,

Juan

[...] and then launch your application. That’s all there is to it.Fluid gets its inspiration from Prism, a project by Mozilla labs. However, because Fluid is Mac only, and is based on Safari’s [...]

[...] Prism [...]

[...] Prism es un proyecto de la fundación Mozilla. Puedes ejecutar tus aplicaciones web como si fuesen aplicaciones de escritorio: con su ventana independiente sin barras de herramientas, con doble click, y de momento poco más. [...]

[...] запустити, хіба ні? Тут нам на допомогу приходить Prism — “це додаток, що дозволяє будь-яку веб-прогу (напр., [...]

[...] creates what are called ’site specific browser